
In it to win it ... still.
Obama looks like the nominee. So why won't Hillary Clinton quit?
They started writing Hillary Clinton's political obituary after the Iowa caucuses. Then she won New Hampshire. They tried again after Super Tuesday. And still she fought on. Now Clinton has failed to score any kind of knockout blow against Barack Obama in the North Carolina and Indiana primaries. Once again, the pundits are saying its over. Even George McGovern is saying she should drop out -- and George McGovern knows from losing. Clinton has even been forced to loan millions of dollars to her own campaign just to stay afloat. Still: There's no sign of quit.
Should Hillary Clinton drop out of the Democratic race? Why is she staying in?















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Submitted on March 20th, 2009 by Kale FMrs. Clinton's pride encourages her to pursue her candidacy. If she will quit she is consider a great looser!!! But her determination stands firm to continue fighting. This is one of good quality she has. But on the other side, the better should prevail and that's Obama. This is good for many; as we can see the economy fluctuates we really need to have the best authorities. Democrats would be the stimulator of the economy again. Hopefully, we are starting all over again. The crisis is seen and felt globally, a very sad truth!! Bank robberies have been on the rise since the recession started and instead of the normal malcontent criminals, an increasing number of them are normal folks. Theft is one of the kinds of crime that is more likely to happen during recessions, as people are strapped for cash. Thankfully, police forces are far better equipped to deal with situations arising if some yokels decide they’re going to become this century’s Bonnie and Clyde and go on a spree of bank robberies.
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Why won't Hillary quit ?
Submitted on August 27th, 2008 by AnonymousHillary won't quit simply because while she is in campaign she is able to raise money and she needs to raise a lot of money. That's her real motivation certainly not any other that does not benefit her and her family personally. She is probably really under the gun from the rest of her clan for dropping 20 million of their personal fortune into what should have been recognized as a losing campaign.
Obama's endorsements questionable
Submitted on June 2nd, 2008 by AnonymousIt does bother me and I wonder why we are not hearing from him about this.
If he really wants to be the nominee for Presidency of the US, he has to realize that people are looking at his associates and how that reflects his private personal opinions on the freedoms so many have fought to protect.
To me, it seems rather scary and too risky for future generations.
Our checks and balance system can check and balance so much.
art-form taken to new heights
Submitted on May 31st, 2008 by John 2000I was doing a little watching of the continuing saga of Democratic Party exposure case going on in DC today. But I went and took a 10 mile mountain hike instead. After all there is still so much time left, even before the mythical threatened convention.
What do I see mainly? It would best be described as the democrats 'trying to perfect the art of internal panic control'.
Why won't Hillary quit?
Submitted on May 31st, 2008 by AnonymousIf Hillary quits it could be a disaster for the Dems. If you forget the delegate count and just look at the states each has won you'll see that Hillary has won the states with the most electoral votes and Obama has won the smaller states.
No one can win the Presidency without taking New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, California, Michigan and Florida. These states have just too many electoral votes to be ignored.
Does it bother anyone else that Obama is accumulating endorsements from known enemies of the United States?
It sure seems that people like Castro and Ahmadinejad really like this rookie.
Those are pretty loose and
Submitted on May 14th, 2008 by John 2000Those are pretty loose and scurrilous ravings there, anony-mouse. After all, your totally under qualified favorite is blazing a path through Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, New York, California, etc. And still Obama has nothing to fear but fear itself. Your comment is a reflection of fear. Look at it closely.
Hillary really knows that she is the stronger candidate. I think you know that also. Come on, admit it.
A Clinton Quit?
Submitted on May 14th, 2008 by AnonymousHillary won't quit. She's like the energizer bunny or maybe a bad penny. Why would she? She's owed this position. It's her birth right. An entitlement. Her reality has been skewed for years why would that change now? Bill didn't resign after being impeached. It's just not in their vocabulary. Don't you all realize this is all about her? It's too personal to her. It's not because she's the first woman...It's not because she really cares about our county...It's not that she really wants to help you. She truly believes that this is her place.
Nope, i own half of the
Submitted on May 11th, 2008 by wishnevskyNope, i own half of the cheapest house in america, and a business that keeps its nose above water with constant churning.. In other words, better than most, but not good enough to amount to a row of parsnips.
I could have selected better parents
indeed
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by John 2000as the cold eyes of the viper fix upon the vicious approaching mongoose :
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to Hillary should not drop out because ---
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by AnonymousI love the smell of desperation in the morning. Your frantic and wild eyed rant is full of inconsistencies even within the post. It is also appearing almost verbatim on blog sites all over the web. Your back room dealing racism and assault on the middle class politics is about to end and your fear shows through your anger. Welcome to the new century where idealism trumps insider experience and hope overcomes fear. You right wingnuts have done everything you could to see Clinton go against your milktoast McSame, including showing up in droves to vote for her in the Democratic primaries. America doesn't want another Clinton dynasty any more than they want to give the Bush dynasty another shot at destroying us. The days of Carville, Rove, Clinton, Cheney, Bush et al are over. We can only hope that America came to it's senses in time.
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Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by John 2000Now that would be a good one! ... with free and clear ownership! Are you free and clear, Wish? I'm not that far away, but wondering if I'll get there.
Breslin is still alive and
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by wishnevskyBreslin is still alive and writing, i could wiki up Terkle, but i think he is alive.. But what they all did, what Woodie Guthrie and the early rockers did, is to connect to the regular guy and woman. They got great stuff by hanging out in low bars and listening. Now even country music has gone elitist.
Hip hop pretends to be the voice of the street, but they create their own underclass fantasy, and then make it real. Not at all the same thing.
Had a guy tell me once,"The only crime in this country is poverty."
I sort of wish they would reinstate a property requirement for citizenship in this country and quit jerking me off every four years.
I can't name the two out of
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by John 2000I can't name the two out of hand without looking them up, but I do know what you are talking about, whether it be print, visual media, or radio; even those who closely approximate my own inner sense on things, I consider with suspicion.
Cynicism is the transcendent virtue of the day : cynicism born of an intuition of inner hopelessness recasting more cynicism. The projection of reality becomes the reality.
I love the scene in Apocalypse Now where the movie's main protagonist gets to the bridge under siege and asks "who's in charge here"? I also hate that scene.
My wife thinks that media
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by wishnevskyMy wife thinks that media personalities are paid well enough to function as an elite, that they have very little contact with the common ruck, who they tend to look down on in any case, identifying with the powerful.
That may be, i don't know any people at that level, but it is a fact that the Jimmie Breslins, Mike Roykos, Bill Mauldins, Studs Terkles and Ernie Pyles are a vanished breed. In fact, i wonder how many readers of this blog even know who those men were. Two of them are still alive.
Common sense plays little
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by John 2000Common sense plays little part in our Mediacracy. Common sense has been proven to be terribly boring.
Watch out, they may revoke
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by wishnevskyWatch out, they may revoke your press pass if you talk sensible like that. They used to report, but now it's a matter of egging people on. Like Abbott and Costello used to say, "Let's you and him fight."
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Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by AnonymousI thought the aim of the primaries was for one candidate to collect a specific total of votes. Both candidates have a lot of votes, neither has enough votes to win outright. That means, or use to mean that the issue goes to the convention. But it seems we want to have a coronation not a convention. I don';t know why the newsmedia, of which I am a part, is so concverned about how the Democratic Party will handle this intense rivalry. That's for the Dems to figure out, we should just be reporting it, not trying to shivy the numbers one way or the other. Thank you
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Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by rom12921"The Permanent Republican Majority" hasn't worked out. The jackasses who ran up spending @ >10% a year, rightfully deserved the boot in '06; especially after "no new taxes" and "contract with America". suprised Dems didn't do better.
Obama will need alot of help in Secretary of State cabinet position to deal with Achmadinejad (sp). Sam Nunn would be a good choice. Bill Richardson for VP?
Good question. I personally
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by wishnevskyGood question. I personally thought that if Kerry could have spoken in 2004 like he did when he came back from Vietnam, it would have been a different story. And the bloom was not off the Bush Rove.. err.. Rose like it is now.
And i think that many in the media are so afraid of being called racist, that they give Obama a pass on lots of things.. One wonders if Putin and China will be so impressed.
And Whitewatergate was a joke from the start, Hillary lost money on that deal. Bush and Rove seem to have broken every law possible in pursuit of 'The Permanent Republican Majority," railroaded the sitting governor of Alabama, and tried to turn the Justice Department into a GOP hit squad. But we may see.
A lot of dems are not happy with Pelosi tabling impeachment, and the Abramoff scandal, the Tom Delay trial, the Alaskan Republican bribery trial and even some stuff from Enron are in the courts now, grinding slowly away.
I think i have lost track, but you can bet that somebody someplace is keeping score on this.
I refer you to Jimmie Breslin's "How the Good Guys Finally Won," and to his metaphor of the paper cuts for an example of the process.
Wuss w/a Purple Heart
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by rom12921How come swiftboating, New England arrogance and the like could get Kerry defeated but Wright's racist rants didn't do squat to Obama?
Honkies for Hillary or not, Obama seems strong.
Is that an epitaph for Ken Starr? "He wasted a lot of money, and accomplished very little."
Kerry was a wuss, and played
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by wishnevskyKerry was a wuss, and played nice. He didn't even fight back against the swift boaters.
And one would hope the Dems could find a more competent prosecutor than Ken Starr. He wasted a lot of money, and accomplished very little.
Don't tell me words don't matter
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by John 2000http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqp...
Honkies for Clinton
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by rom12921I agree with the take on Clinton and disagree with the following for 2 reasons:
"The Bush Administration has broken so many laws, so blatantly, that if the Republicans lose this election to Clinton, a lot of Republicans will go to jail."
1.If Democrats had the evidence they would have used it in 2004 & 2006 (Kerry needed help & majority is slight in'06)instead of Rumsfeld bad, Cheney not nice.
2. When have the Clinton's ever cleaned up corruption? Even on the remote possibility they did, is Ken Starr available? maybe Spitzer?
Let's just pretend, that
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by wishnevskyLet's just pretend, that Hillary is a wonk who actually cares about America and the Democratic party. A stretch i know, but humor me.
So she sees, or thinks she sees Obama and the party heading for a fall in November, because Obama is ripe Swift-boat fruit. Ten percent of Americans already think he is a Muslim, which will almost offset the Black vote. So it's down to the honkies to decide the election. The same people, the Reagan Democrats that Obama has trouble connecting too. Nobody ever said that the Clintons could not read polls.
So what are her choices? Acquiesce to the zeitgeist and surrender, or fight it out to the end, and then appear to support Obama, the same way Bill Clinton supported Gore.
That way she keeps her image intact, and still gets to say, if there is a Republican Victory, "I told you so."
Nobody mentions the real prize here. The Bush Administration has broken so many laws, so blatantly, that if the Republicans lose this election to Clinton, a lot of Republicans will go to jail.
Obama and the Kennedy's might let it all slide, business as usual behind a screen of "change" which will mean new faces in the same old seats.
I expect Rove and his machine to move heaven and earth to keep out of jail, don't you? The Seigleman case alone would be the biggest scandal in American history, if it was not for all the other crooked stuff in the last eight years. You know, little stuff like this war thing in Iraq.
Woman's Perogative
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by rom12921"...approval rating of around 20% which means many people were FOOLED."
Approval rating doesn't mean anyome was fooled. They changed their minds.
This is the most pressing issue in the country...people are unwilling or unable to think through things and come to a reasonable conclusion.
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VOTERS MAKING A SECOND MISTAKE
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by AnonymousVoters got GWBush elected TWICE and he's the same guy today as he was then---same resume---same ol--everything and now he has approval rating of around 20% which means many people were FOOLED.
Now people are conned by OBAMA speeches and they don't care about Pastor-Wright or the muslim issue cause they love those speeches--. In fact we will have another PUPPET president because Obama's resumes includes only LECTURING--a bit of LAWYERing and a whole lot of CAMPAIGNING for the state--senate and now the presidency. THOSE are his qualifications for being the leader of the free-world. ???
GOOD GAWD what is wrong with this country again falling into a trap.
What's the matter ya'll.
Submitted on May 8th, 2008 by John 2000What's the matter ya'll. You don't want to see her slaughter sleazy 'Bama in the remaining states?
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Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by AnonymousOBAMA LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google 'Obama Selma' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that....and for more.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/080115/issues.h...
Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtm...
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article "Obama was 'quite religious in islam'" http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.vie...
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008.
Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago:
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."
This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says "Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts."
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.
33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.