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Do women have a right to birth control?
More than 40 years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Griswold v. Connecticut that a right to privacy protected the right of married couples to purchase and use birth control. But the last battle has not been fought: Last week, a federal appeals court said the State of Washington cannot yet enforce a law that requires pharmacies to dispense contraceptives over the objections of pro-life pharmacists.
But the debate isn't just going on in the courts. The American Life League has launched a campaign, "The Pill Kills Babies," designed to convince women to stop using birth control pills. That has drawn the ire of critics who say such campaigns are intended to limit the sexual choices of women.
Both sides view the original Griswold ruling as a foundation for the later Roe v. Wade decision that guaranteed abortion rights. That makes it a ripe battleground for future court challenges.
Is there a right to birth control? And if so, is that right threatened?















Thoughts
Twist logic to suit your own agenda
Submitted on May 11th, 2008 by Bull MooseLaughable how these anti abortion pill fanatics twist things around to fit their agendas.
If you don't want to give women their abortion pills. get another job. But in the spirit of Karl Rove Projection Debate, religious right wingers now say the poor wittle pharmacist is being discrimated against. Poor wittle fella.
There are no rights
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by John 2000there are no guarantees. Want an abortion : get an abortion : just don't ask me to pay for your abortion : keep it simple.
Ethical oaths
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by AnonymousI guess I do have an axe to grind.
I am troubled by the notion the government believes it can end freedom of religion because women have a right to contraceptives.
I am also troubled by the notion governments believe they can require someone to give up basic human rights to become a pharmacist.
Does an Ethical oath, a
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by wishnevskyDoes an Ethical oath, a professional oath override one's personal ethical convictions?
I believe the Supreme Court has thought about doctor's oaths, and i know they are working on a journalist's sources.
I have no real axe to grind on this, it's just intriguing.
And the employer of the pharmacist has something to say also. It's not a duality, a two valued system.
Morality has a difficult time in a multi-valued system, where more than one side can be right.
Freedom of conscience, not money
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by Anonymouswishnevsky--
Money is not the issue. Freedom of conscience is the issue.
I do not believe the government has the right to take away freedom of moral and religious choice from pharmacists in order to give freedom of choice to women.
That amounts to curtailing basic First Amendment rights so as not to curtail a woman's right to contraception. Becoming a pharmacist does not mean you surrender your Constitutional rights.
I believe the pharmacists
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by wishnevskyI believe the pharmacists swear an oath to serve the public? If correct, they would have to subsume their personal beliefs to the service of the public, the prescriptions of the doctors and the public good.
At least as long as they wanted to keep getting $90,000.00 a year for moving pills from one bottle to another.
Not about women's rights
Submitted on May 10th, 2008 by AnonymousThe issue here is not whether women have a right to use birth control, but whether the state can force pharmacists to dispense certain medicines in violation of their own consciences. In this instance, giving women a choice means taking away choices for pharmacists.
Giving women a choice cannot come at the price of taking away choice from others. We all have the right to follow our own beliefs.
what?
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by american_girl1Ok so my thoughts on your speial are that 1.) It's not completly true, 2). This has absolutley nothing to do with the subject of women having the right to use birth control, and 3).Most of the things you mentioned aren't even planned by women!
My first complaint to you is that this isn't completly true. Women are not at all completly week. I mean why is it whenever anything comes up that women are automtically weaker than the male gender?! I happen to know women whor are stronger than alot of the guys on sports teams! Yes, I will say some women are weaker than men, but just because some women are weak, doesn't mean that we should sterotype every woman in the world and label them as weak! If you really think about it most women are stronger than they look, but don't really show it because life is male dominant, and no matter what happens in life men will most likley overpower women.
Also not all of the things you say are acurate! Yes life would be better if everything was equal and life was just sugar and gum drops. But the fact of the matter is that everyone is different, and we as humans will never be able to get over those differences. I mean come on everyone judges everyone at one point in their life, no matter who you are or what you look like, at one point in life you're gonna say you can't do this, because YOU'RE DIFFERENT! SO until we learn to put differences aside, which is unlikely to happen, nothing's going to change! Also just because people stadn up for themselves doesn't automatically mean things are going to change! Yes in the past everyone who stood up for themselves and got their way in the end, but in the situation of women, alot of the times they're laughed at for standing up for things because they're women.
And lastly, alot of those things you mentioned aren't even planned to happen! I mean do you really think that women plan spousal abuse, or they plan to be the victim of a crime? No not really, 9 times out of 10, it just happens unexpectedly and unbeknowst to the victim of the crime. A lot of time it's hard to say just how things happen of victims, because YOU'RE NOT THEM AND DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION!!!!!! Also alot of the time the women are fighting back, but can't stop the crime or abuse! So don't say if they stood up for themselves that things would be better if they stood up for themselves, because you don't to 100% know that that's the case!
As for birth control, I personally repect women who use it if they're not ready to have a kid, then people who aren't and do have a kid. Also it's they're choice, and it's not a spot of weakness!
Sorry for my spelling errors i'm not good at it^^!
Relevance is Necessary
Submitted on May 9th, 2008 by classiclife"Male domination". You give off the impression that women have no contribution to affairs at all. FIRST baby step? Have you not realized that if not for the women in the past, women would not have the right to vote. Women would be unable to have their own jobs. Women wouldn't even be given the option to run for any political office in the first place. Whch their is so many of already.True we do live in a male dominant society, but as the saying goes, "Behind every great man, is a woman." Woman have had their hand in politics long before they had any reasonable rights. They would 'convince' their husbands, fathers, brothers, to vote, support anyone the woman wanted them to while still making them believe it was their ideas. Having a woman president is NOT going to change women suffering from this 'Battered Wife Syndrome' you speak of. I think that women are only depending so much on their husbands because it's the 'easy-way-out' approach on life. Let the husband cater to your every need? Sounds like the wife is too dependent, not weak. After all, you have to have at least a little strength to bring a new life into the world.
However, I honestly don't see how that is completely relevant to birth control anyway. Please stay on topic. I'm all for 'male dominance' to come to an end and have a true equality between the sexes, but as long as men believe they are physically stronger than women and women believe they are smarter than men, with both genders under the false pretense that they are surely better, it is not an option. Back on topic, birth control is an option. tomcatin4u is completely right in saying that birth control is not killing or anything of the sort, but merely preventing.
I believe they should
Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by tomcatin4uto me the pill dosent break gods law.yes im religous.The reason is timeing.the pill tricks the vagina into thinking its pregnant so it dosent produce an egg.therefore there is now joining of man an woman no baby killing but rather baby sparing from mutalaction tortue used to comit what i consider a ungody act abortion.so if it spares kids?but of coarse there are still possible side effects about the pill.MOOD swings possible increase of CANCER.so i would recomend that if thinking about the pill think real good an hard an talk to a DOCTOR.
Women are weak
Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by AnonymousToo many American women are suffering from what was labeled as the BATTERED WIFE SYNDROME but many just developed that malady on their own .
They think MEN in power will do everything for them and do not think its important if they are given any power over their bodies or souls. If women did have power --then today there would be equal pay--no polygamy---no spousal abuse---no repeated sex crimes - and repeated rapest on the loose.
If women would only read the struggles women have had throughout history and into our own century maybe they'd think it important to take a step and see that we FINALLY have a woman president as the leader of the free world. Maybe that FIRST baby step after 200+ years of male domination might bring BIGGER steps for us.
Religious right has nose troubles
Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by Bull MooseThe religious right suffers from the delusion they control people and their private decisions.The dream that their mission is to create Heaven on Earth is their error,as Christ said so Himself.
God will deal with these matters one day,untill then i pray He saves us from His followers.
Personally, i would counsel any woman to have the baby, but the ultimate decision is hers. The religious right disappears and whines about welfare when the child is born,thus exposing their self righteous hypocrisy.
On the comparison with the pro-life pharmacists
Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by Chuck_JohnsonThere's a huge difference between punishing someone for having birth control and forcing someone else to distributed it.
Chuck Johnson is a student at Claremont McKenna College. Feel free to contact him.
I am not 100% sure on this,
Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by wishnevskyI am not 100% sure on this, and too busy to search my concordance, but i believe that there is no explicit prohibition against abortion or infanticide in the Old Testament. I was told the reason was that it would be unenforceable, both because women were property, and because there was no way to enforce such a prohibition.
Come famine, and the babies died first, law of nature. If a mother chose to perform triage, or if a deformed baby was born, then it was nobody's business what happened.
I gotta confess. I think
Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by John 2000I gotta confess. I think Wishnevsky summed up the reality of the situation pretty well.
I provide a link to some statistical US numbers from 1969 to 2000.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml...
I support providing a wide range of options to women in the unwanted pregnancy category.
The way I see it is that
Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by zz_blackjackThe way I see it is that regardless of religious beliefs, it's not your place or right to force them on others. If someone wants to go on birth control, then by all means go ahead. Socially and economically it's a good thing. If you don't want to go on birth control because you think it's morally wrong, then by all means do what you think is right.
I'm not at all for making an entire country follow a set of laws because a group of members in that country want it to be that way. You can do what you want to do, but don't force others who don't believe as you do to do it also.
The Right to Pursue Happiness.
Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by nullcronThe Right to Pursue Happiness.
In this right I include not having children.
Anything stopping this right is unconstitutional.
The pill ≠ Abortion
Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by AnonymousVery few people feel that using birth control is equivalent to killing babies. If anything, we should make people use birth control. The population explosion on our planet is the real problem facing the environment. Every issue has its fanatics and the abortion issue is the best example of this. I, personally, am against abortion, but I certainly encourage the use of any contraceptive in hopes that no unwanted baby would be concieved and, in turn, killed.
After forty years, the right
Submitted on May 7th, 2008 by wishnevskyAfter forty years, the right to privacy and birth control is pretty well established, as well as being in that class of actions, that although deplorable to some, are inalienable to the extent that they cannot be prevented without destroying any personal rights whatsoever.
I believe that the conservative Supreme Court said something similar in its ruling in the Texas Sodomy laws a few years ago.
Trying to enforce an unenforceable law is one of the best ways to breed disdain for the government in the population. The Drug Laws are the prime example. You might think that the public moralists could have learned something from the Prohibition Debacle, but unfortunately that is not the case. We have to learn this lesson every generation.
Birth Control, Abortion, Adultery, Sodomy, Drugs, Suicide, Gambling, there are so many laws the government has no power to enforce, and very little power to punish after the fact. Most of them have something to do with sex or shortcuts to personal happiness.
The old blues song had it right. "All the money in the world spent on feeling good."
And you know, i used to sell National Review when i was a teenager, and i think it is getting more petty and strident as time goes on.
There is such a concept as liberty, and that implies making choices and accepting the consequences. The Supreme Court accepts that, has for years, you would think the Conservative press could too. If you look at the Roe v. Wade and Connecticut contraception decisions, the thrust is that there is not enough Federal power to monitor every womb in America.
If you can't control something, there is no sense in banning it, and hoping for the best.