
Is the United States still looking for this man?
What war? No plan to get Al Qaeda, GAO finds
More than six years after the 9/11 attacks, the United States still does not have a coherent plan to destroy a key staging area for terrorist attacks into the country, according to an independent government watchdog.
There is "no comprehensive plan" to destroy the terrorist threat and close down the safe haven in Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas , said the Government Accountability Office (GAO).The vast, impoverished, mountainous and unpoliced tribal belt shares a border with Afghanistan and is regarded by Washington as a key sanctuary for top terrorists who masterminded the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
U.S. officials have said that Al-Qaeda supremo Osama Bin Laden and Taliban chief Mullah Mohammad Omar are believed seeking refuge in the tribal areas, a charge vehemently denied by Pakistan.
Does the United States need a comprehensive plan to win the war on terrorism generally and defeat Al-Qaeda in particular? Does the GAO report lend credence to critics who say the Iraq war is a distraction from the "real war"? Will the war on terrorism end with the capture or death of bin Laden? Or is the war bigger than Al-Qaeda?















Thoughts
So?
Submitted on April 18th, 2008 by CORNFINGER66In the words of the Dick "So".
As long as Bin is still out there, Bush and the boys can keep the American sheep in fear.
Then the war machine can keep chugging along, and the war profiteers can keep getting rich.
The cycle goes on and on.
Extremism
Submitted on April 18th, 2008 by chief28.retI think Secretary Gates had it right last week when he said the enemy is Extremism. Yes, Taking out Bin Laden and the mullahs will help, but not wipe out terrorism or extremism. The war is bigger than they are, and I think that is the strategic message the administration has been [rightly] trying to promote
Re: Questions
Submitted on April 18th, 2008 by JoelI withdraw the Bin Laden comment. My bad.
However: "But would all the troops amassed in Iraq be scouring the countryside of Pakistan Obama-style right now if they were not in Iraq? Sadly, no."
But they might not be in Iraq, either.
The Pentagon's profile of AQI's members -- based on interviews with 48 captured members -- looks something like this:
Re: re: Jim's questions
Submitted on April 18th, 2008 by Jim LakelyHere we go ...
Where did I say the report was "just about Osama bin Laden"? Since I didn't, I suppose I'm not "wrong about that." The part where I mention bin Laden by name is in answering the question you put on the board: Will the war on terrorism end with the capture or death of bin Laden? Or is the war bigger than Al-Qaeda?
This troubles me, too. But would all the troops amassed in Iraq be scouring the countryside of Pakistan Obama-style right now if they were not in Iraq? Sadly, no.
A lot, perhaps. But not all. And nut-job jihadists hardly need much motivation to hate us and become terrorists. The excuses and justifications are as numerous as they are mindless.
Cheers!
Jim
Re: Jim's questions
Submitted on April 18th, 2008 by JoelJim, have you read the GAO report? It's not about the "big picture" of the war on terror at all -- you're right about that. But it's not so narrow as to be just about Osama Bin Laden, either, so you're wrong about that.
It's about Al Qaeda. You know -- the group that, unlike anybody in Iraq, actually attacked us. And the GAO report is pretty definitive on this point: We've been letting them rebuild strength in the tribal areas of Pakistan, to the point that they're in a good position to attack us again. And it's clear -- though the GAO report doesn't say this -- that we haven't given this our full attention because of distractions in Iraq. How do we know this? Even the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has basically said so.
We may be killing terrorist enemies "by the bushelful" in Iraq -- but even the Pentagon has suggested that a lot of those people were motivated to become terrorists ... by the U.S. invasion of Iraq. It's like flooding a field, letting it start to dry out and proclaiming victory in the war on water.
Sleeping better than 7 years ago,
Submitted on April 18th, 2008 by Respectfulguestbut it could not be due to the current administration.
Hmmm...Almost 7 years with no terrorist attack in US (knock on wood). US ships, buildings and planes no longer being blown-up. Hundreds if not thousands of top terrorists taken out over past seven years. Don't know about you, but it's 3 AM and I am sleeping much better than 7 years ago. Thank god to the people who serve and have served to make our daily lives, well...Free.
...And whatever happenned to the terror alert ticker with color graphics that used to be prominently plastered on every cable news network TV screen?
Please find something else to complain about because bombing the crap out of a Pakistan tribal area to take out some 80 year old man hiding in a cave does not seem too important at this juncture.
RE: What war? No plan to get Al Qaeda, GAO finds
Submitted on April 18th, 2008 by Jim LakelyTo (quickly) take the questions one by one:
Yes. We have one. Bush is implementing it, however imperfectly in certain ways. But no wars are perfect in their short-term execution. That is especially true in this new war. But the fact that terrorist enemies are dying by the bushel full in Iraq is a good start.
No. The GAO doesn't have the long view. It's not in that bureaucracy's make-up and mission. They'd have said the European Theater of World War II was a distraction from avenging Pearl Harbor.
No, and yes. Bin Laden's eventual death will not end the global jihad against the United States. The war was bigger than bin Laden before 9/11, and will continue to be a generational struggle.