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Should the drinking age be lowered from 21 to 18?
A number of U.S. states are considering legislation to lower the legal drinking age from the current standard of 21 -- if only to allow troops home from Iraq to drink. The move would defy a generation of federal law and public opinion in America which is strongly opposed to lowering the drinking age. In 1984, Congress set a uniform legal drinking age of 21, threatening to cut highway funding to states which did not comply -- mostly to cut down on drunk driving fatalities. But advocates argue teenagers are going to drink anyway. Should the drinking age be lowered?















Thoughts
drinking as a minor
Submitted on May 28th, 2008 by AnonymousSTOPPPPPP ARUGUING ABOUT THE AGE LIMIT IF THEY WANT A BEER THEY WILL HAVE A BEER AND WE AS THE ADULTS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT KIDS WILL BE KIDS AND THATS THAT
WHY?
Submitted on May 22nd, 2008 by AnonymousWHY would you ever want to go out and get drunk or party all night. Come on there is more to life then drinking. I just want to let you guys no that there is no reason you should start drinking and 16 or 17 or ever as a mater of fact. All you are doing is damageing your brain and throwing away your life.
A worried teenager
Yah, your so mature!
Submitted on May 21st, 2008 by AnonymousHI, I wont tell you how old I am ,but I will say I am old enough to know what beer does to you. If your so mature then why would you want to go out and get drunk! Now I can see haveing a drink every once an awile, but resbect the age limet. It is put in posistion for your own safety. There would be even higher numbers on those tolls you were talking about freak if they lower the age limet. Oh, and for the record I'm Uncle Sams neice.
A conserned teen.
Let teens drink with their parents present.
Submitted on May 6th, 2008 by AnonymousI think the drinking age should be 16 with parents present, and 18 for any other time. Letting people drink at age 16 only with their parents will guarantee that parents (who typically frown upon massive consumption) are the people that expose youth to alcohol for the first two years. Doing this will get youth into good habits by the time they turn 18. Plus, the "part of the brain that is still developing until age 25" argument for the 21 drinking age is an exaggeration of the truth. People who grew up in the states where the drinking age was lower do not show any signs of any body malfunction directly as a result of drinking at these lower ages. This indicates that alcohol does not cause as much damage on the developing brain as the youth prohibitionists say it does.
safety not a good justification
Submitted on April 30th, 2008 by Anonymoushighway deaths also increase with speed limit increases...so should we lower the speed limit to 30 mph on all highways to make some pretty statistics?
truth.
Submitted on April 30th, 2008 by Anonymousi ve been drinking a lot more responsibly now that i'm 21 and do it mostly at bars than before, when i got hammered at house parties and the like.
DRINKING AGE 18 +
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousThe drinking age should be changed. I am not a minor (i am 20) and refuse to be treated like one. If I want a beer, guess what, I will have a beer. Its my right as an adult to choose how I spend my time and what I do with my money. Would you rather your kids experiment with alcohol or drugs. 21 is a long wait, and trust me they won't wait that long to try whatever they can get there hands on. So the question is whats worse, buying alcohol at 18 or smoking meth at 18? Having a drink or getting high on whatever drugs come your way?
Freedom >> Safety
Submitted on April 26th, 2008 by stingray4540"Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." - William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry
"Posterity, you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it." - John Adams
"Guard jealously your liberty, suspect anyone who even approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve your liberty except downright force. And whenever you give up that force, you are ruined!"
- Patrick Henry
Perhaps some of you have forgotten your history and why this country was founded. It is freedom, and not safety that we should push for. People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and there actions, and not rely on the government to protect them and decide what is best for them. If safety is what you want, then move. There are plenty of countries that are more than willing to tell you what is best for you.
Wait a minute, America is supposed to be a free country, yet we are the only country that has a 21 year minimum drinking age...
The drinking age doesn't need to be reduced to 18, the drinking laws need to be changed completely.
There should be a public drinking age of 18, and a private or supervised drinking age of 12. This way, children can be taught how to drink socially and responsibly from a young age, so alcohol isn't such a mystery and there would be less attraction or desire to bing drink when they turn 21 with there college buddies. Children need to be taught how to drink responsibly by there parents, and not by some irresponsible college buddies. And, parents shouldn't have to worry about criminal charges because they choose to raise there children properly.
Make up your mind across the board
Submitted on April 24th, 2008 by AnonymousI'm 20-years-old and I enjoy drinking... albeit illegally. If you're going to keep the drinking age at 21 because "I'm not mature enough to drink myself to a mental state of a 12-year-old," you have to do so across the board. The current law implies that I can, at 18, kill many people purposefully in war, choose the leader of my country, choose the person I will share a bed with "until death do us part," and a whole plethora of other major responsibilities.
I started drinking at 17 and have thusly been in the company of "of-age" drinkers who act wholly less responsible than myself. Most other countries allow 18-year-olds to purchase beer at least... hell, Puerto Rico (a US territory) allows it.
So, instead of burdening Uncle Sam with the responsibility of cutting down your damned "drunk-driving death tolls", why don't you put the responsibility on parents to do a modicum of upbringing. That is, if they are not already divorced because they got married to young...
Someone here said:
"Many of you use that 'If I am old enough to die for my country than i am old enough to drink'- Keep whining. When you are sober you are far more able to make sound judgment, operate weapons or machinery with precision, and can control your behavior better."
First of all, it's kind of uncalled for to call it 'whining'. It's more so demanding equal rights. Also, you're not thinking of Select Services (AKA "The Draft") which means you can be FORCED to join the military at 18 if you have signed up for selective services (if you've registered to vote).
Could go on... but, my final argument is that it's a 'free country' and should reflect this moniker. Damn hypocrites.
Not far enough
Submitted on April 23rd, 2008 by Anonymous"Research estimates that from 1975-2002 more than 21,000 lives have been saved. Hard to argue with that!"
Yet I'm sure you would reject a drinking age of 25. Surely that would save even more lives, would it not? I feel you simply want as many people to die as possible, otherwise you would support such a measure.
Many of you use that "If I
Submitted on April 23rd, 2008 by AnonymousMany of you use that "If I am old enough to die for my country than i am old enough to drink"- Keep whining. When you are sober you are far more able to make sound judgment, operate weapons or machinery with precision, and can control your behavior better. At 18, you should be honored to have some responsibility and freedom. 18 is just too young for people to handle a drug, many people are not fully matured and hang out with even younger people which would make it that much easier for kids to get their chance at drinking. Besides, I know plenty of great people who loose control and do incredibly stupid things when they drink, so its not just about being an adult.
Brain Development, Common Sense, and a Few Hang-Ups
Submitted on April 22nd, 2008 by TholarisThere is a lot of evidence that the brain does the majority of growth and development from birth through age 21. That, as far as I can tell, is the best excuse for having the drinking age be 21.
Additionally, for all those that say that people who are allowed to sign contracts and marry and all that hoop-la-la might want to consider a few things. Such as:
1) Lower the drinking age, lower the age at which children begin to drink. Right now it is mostly high school. Lower the age to 18 and it will be middle schoolers with alcohol problems (not that we don't already have that problem).
2) It may not be a bad idea to have a system that steps up the amount of responsibility on your plate. At 16 you can drive, at 18 you can vote and enter into legal contract, and 21 you can take your life into your hands (as well as the lives of those around you).
3) The standard rule of "21 to Drink" hasn't stopped millions of teens from drinking daily for the past couple of decades, if not longer. Why such a fuss?
4) For a minor, marijuana is easier to obtain than alcohol. Maybe we are focused on the wrong subject.
On a personal note: I know a woman that drank a LOT before turning 21. She's, oh, 25+ now, and only just realized that signaling for a turn is the law and you can be pulled over and even given a ticket if you don't obey it. Let that soak in before you stamp any bill that lowers the drinking age.
Joel and his 'Facts'
Submitted on April 22nd, 2008 by AnonymousThis is one of the major problems with media today. Their ability to throw out all kinds of 'facts' that are backed up by 'experts' and 'research'. If you are going to use statistics you should cite it. if not, it is worthless. A study put together by a Washington think tank shows that 73 percent of un-cited statistics are incorrect.
very true. In Europe there
Submitted on April 22nd, 2008 by Anonymousvery true. In Europe there is significantly less binge drinking and alcohol related deaths simply because drinking is accepted in the home. teenagers dont feel the need to go all out and get tanked just because they have limited opportunities to do so.
Raise the driving age to 18
Submitted on April 22nd, 2008 by AnonymousThe craziest thing here is that you can drive a two ton weapon (i.e. car) at the tender age of 16. What needs to happen if we lower the drinking age to 18 is to raise the driving age to 18. That will limit the amount of teenage drivers on the roads and would most likely lower accident rates. Drunk or not 16 year old kids dont take driving seriously and probably cause their fair share of accidents.
Do these studies show how many of these alcohol related traffic accidents are caused by minors?
drinking age be lowered?
Submitted on April 21st, 2008 by bananaheck yes. that way any of the 18 year olds who are old enough to make their decision will decide their own fate if they choose to drink and die.
weeds out the herd early. this is good.
drinking kids
Submitted on April 20th, 2008 by Anonymousyes, lower the age, so kids can go out and act like f@cktards and wind up in a.a. earlier. get it out of the way, so they can maybe start to act more responsible in their 20's, instead of the disgusting regression most 21 year olds go through. they're going to drink anyways, anyways. at least this way they won't feel the social pressure to do the bar scene at 21 because it'll be played out by then. or they'll be lifelong alcoholics, so if that's a problem outlaw alcohol then. ha!
Theory?
Submitted on April 19th, 2008 by AnonymousAt age 18 people can participate in legalized prostitution(porn). But not have a cold one on a hot summer day or after a long day's work? Where is the justice in this? Oh, I almost forgot we live in a police state. Worry about yourself and take responsibility for your actions whether they wise or not! Vote Libertarian!
LOWER IT!
Submitted on April 19th, 2008 by AnonymousWhen the age limit is 21 for some reason it glamorizes it. In Europe the age limit is much lower with much less glamorization.
Re: In the Army now
Submitted on April 19th, 2008 by JoelI'm curious -- not that this makes a difference to the argument, I suppose -- but how many of you folks who are saying "I can fight and be killed in the Army, but I can't take a drink" actually are IN the Army, or will join when you turn 18? Because it's a comically silly argument to be making from your dorm room.
18 to drink?
Submitted on April 19th, 2008 by movearoundI do think its a bit silly that you go to
war and all that at 18, but u cant drink.
But i dont think kids are mature enough to drink at 18. You think that you are and nobody can tell you any different but when you get older you do realize 18 is too young to make the decision on how much to drink, when to drink , and when not to.
18 is the age of majority.
Submitted on April 19th, 2008 by Anonymous18 is the age of majority. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. Simply cause it saves lives that doesn't mean it's the right thing, or moral, or just, or even constitutional.
Bars and Clubs
Submitted on April 19th, 2008 by AnonymousIf 18 year olds are in bars and clubs, do you really think they are not going to be able to drink. They may not be served by the staff, but I bet one way or another they will drink. I would rather a person be allowed to drink in a place that can watch what is happening than have drinking in the parking lots, parks and riding around town.
ARMY LIFE
Submitted on April 18th, 2008 by AnonymousIf I can take a bullet in my gut and Die face down in the sand at 18 but I can't take a drink at 18 I mean really. I'm good enough to die and kill for you but not old enough to drink
Re: Insulting
Submitted on April 18th, 2008 by JoelDo you also find it insulting that you have to wait until 25 to run for Congress, 30 for the Senate and 35 for the presidency? Or that you have to wait until 67 to start collecting Social Security benefits?
There's lots of arguably arbitrary age rules out there. How do you choose which ones to scrap and which to keep -- and if keeping the drinking age at 21 saves a few thousand lives, then why should that be one we scrap?
I find it insulting. . .
Submitted on April 18th, 2008 by Squizo21that at age 18 I am forced to register for the draft. That if I commit first degree murder the state can legally kill me. But if I want to go into most bars (not even drink, but simply walk in). What is the law saying when it can punish you to it's fullest extent but you have yet to get full privileges.
I'm on the side of 18
Submitted on April 17th, 2008 by teh_freakyI think the drinking age should be lowered back to 18, because I think if it were there would be less instances of binge drinking. We also need more education for our young people to teach them how to drink responsibly, as opposed to the fear mongering and scare tactics used by people now.
I also think it's asinine that you can smoke, get a loan, a bank account, rent an apartment, etc. at 18, but yet you can't drink.
RE: And yet ...
Submitted on April 17th, 2008 by Jim LakelyAnd yet, while we disagree on many issues, I've got your back on this one, Kansas Girl.
Mark this date on the calendar — and hope for more of them.
Cheers! (literally ... burp!)
Jim
And yet
Submitted on April 17th, 2008 by KansasGirlAnd yet, if someone my age starts talking about lowering the drinking age (and I use those exact same points, btw) I am accused of being an alcohol-loving college student who has no respect for human life. Sigh.
About drinking ...
Submitted on April 17th, 2008 by Jim LakelyMy man, The Big Klosowski! (A drinking nickname if I ever heard it. Right up there with Old School's "Frank the Tank.")
Great points -- both the "old enough to fight for my country but can't have a beer" and the European Way (just about the only time you'll ever find me praising the "European Way.")
Cheers, my friend. I can drink to that!
If you can fight for your country at 18.
Submitted on April 17th, 2008 by The Big KlosowskiYou should be able to have a beer. Actually, I think drinking laws should be completely removed. My european friends hardly ever abuse alcohol like their American friends. Even in high school, my buddy was an Italian exchange student. He had gotten the alcohol consumption out of his system before he could drive, and to this day he still doesn't drink and drive. You should have your first experiences with alcohol around family, so that you can learn to drink responsibly. Not at a frat party with some dude holding a beer bong and chanting "chug". That's how kids end up dead, or making really, really, dumb decisions.