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Okay, so I understand where both sides are coming from. But here's my take:

To the Blue Side:

You complain about people not being able to get decent wages without a college degree, then you celebrate government subsidies of college students. Please pick a side here! Can you not see that it is these subsidies that made it so that everybody *had* to go to college? It used to be that smart people either paid for it themselves through work or loans, or got a private scholarship from the school or some private organization. When the government got involved in higher education, the only thing we saw that was undergraduate level education replaced the high school diploma as the piece of paper someone had to show to prove they could learn, you know, back when high schools weren't afraid to fail kids and kick them out.

Second, you're as uneducated in economics as you could possibly be if you think that the minimum wage is such a wonderful tool. What it really does is increase costs for small businesses, causing them to hure *less* people, and have to raise their prices. I'm sure for the person who doesn't get fired (or who *does* get hired) an increase in the minimum wage is a wonderful deal. But what about the guy who is slightly less skilled and isn't allowed to sell his services for their market value? I suppose this is where your bloated welfare system kicks in, just to raise the social cost a little more.

To the Red:

Wake up. Things are getting that bad. I'm just finishing up my Master's degree in applied economics and I'm wondering where all the jobs went. Employers are hesitant to hire people in this time of uncertainty, and if they do, it seems like they are offering substantially lower pay rates than the market is used to. It is true that the article is poorly written and has a decided lack of citation. However, your argument was just as substantial. Where were your facts of rebuttal?

Frankly, I think that having the economy be bad enough that 50 year old people are even thinking of becoming dependent on their parents again is a sign that our last 25 years of political powers have really messed things up. Both Bushes, Clinton, and even Reagan to a degree aided in a situation where we as a country would have Bubble after Bubble burst right in our face. Greenspan loosed the money gates so that people thought it was growing on trees and Bernanke did more of the same, but all the while advocating governmental control. Now we're in such a mess that people are having to rely on their parents because twenty-year-olds were screwed by the responsibility shucking public education that both the left and the right seem to want to control.

I agree with you that family and friends are the exact people that ought to help in a time of crisis. But instead of abstractly disagreeing with the arguing points of a (very) biased AP article, why don't we dig a little deeper to kill the root of this weed. How about we talk about the abolition of public education, or the welfare system, and argue the merits of private charity instead.

One thing I've noticed about Dems and Repubs is that the Dems say "We're going to take care of you" and the Repubs say "No we are, we'll just do it cheaper. Then spend that money on the military."

Two peas in a socialist pod.