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Another shooting on an American campus, this time at Northern Illinois University. News reports confirm that at least five people are dead, including the gunman.
But the question that always arises after such tragedies is what can be done? Illinois has strict gun control laws. NIU is, in fact, a "gun-free" zone. So was Virginia Tech, where last April a mentally disturbed student murdered 32 people and wounded dozens more.
Are "gun-free" zones invitations to shooters? Should states allow more people to carry guns for self-defense? Should colleges and universities allow professors and students to arm themselves?
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gunfree zones
Submitted on March 8th, 2008 by Anonymousi believe that the fact that schools are gunfree zones encourages people to attack students and faculty because they know no one will be armed and able to stop them.
being from kansas which just passed a concealed carry law and having watched the guns forbiden signs appear in all the local businesses. i fully expect to see the armed robbery and such crime rate to rise since thieves will feel safe in a business which forbids legal carry of concealed firearms on their premises.
and soon the first licenced gun owner will be a victim and own the business where it happened.
above
Submitted on February 18th, 2008 by AnonymousAMEN my Friend, amen
gun free zones
Submitted on February 18th, 2008 by AnonymousCount on me to stay away from such places as I am always armed. I think it is stupid to live in America and not exercise your right to keep and bear arms. This country is overrun with deranged lunatics and with half a chance I don;t plan to be a victim.
Obviously Gun Free Zones Do Not Work
Submitted on February 17th, 2008 by AnonymousJust look at all these mass shootings in "gun free zones". If posting signs is all it would take to stop the criminal element there would be no crime. The only thing that a "gun free zone" does is tell criminals that there is no one in the zone that can defend themselves and they can rob/kill people at will.
How many more people have to be killed in places where "gun are banned" before people realize that disarming the public does not help anyone.
As the scenarios have become
Submitted on February 17th, 2008 by PaulAs the scenarios have become ever more common since the advent of Gun Free Zones our collective psyche would equally morph over time to the stasis of unknown numbers of weapons present when planning or considering some lethal act. The unknown at present works in favor of the perp. It is the imagination of those who oppose concealed carry that sets the stage for another nightmare. Allowing concealed carry would most likely result in very few weapons actually being carried. It would only take the likelyhood of an armed presence to disarm the coward.
Guns made only to kill
Submitted on February 17th, 2008 by PhillepA hand gun is not very useful if it is not "designed for no other purpose than to take another person's life".
If it is useful to a murderer, it is useful for self defense.
I Wonder....
Submitted on February 17th, 2008 by Chuck PeltoTO: All
RE: That Poor NYC Psychologist
....if she were opposed to gun-ownership.
If she were not, I wonder where her personal weapon was.
If she were, I'll wager she changed her mind with the second strike of that meat cleaver.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Among of the curses of being disarmed, it causes you to be despised. -- Machiavelli]
These tragedies should be
Submitted on February 17th, 2008 by AnonymousThese tragedies should be prevented, I would never suggest otherwise. But there are better ways.
What would a better way be, pray tell?
No "better ways"
Submitted on February 17th, 2008 by BroadswordThere is no better way to stop someone firing a weapon at the defenseless than someone else with a weapon returning accurate fire. How long do you want to wait for the return fire? When seconds count, the weapon with attached Policeman is only minutes away. Those minutes stretch into eternities while you cower away beneath a desk, "HOPING" not to be shot. Tell me about those 'better ways' again...
Interesting Statistics
Submitted on February 15th, 2008 by The Other Side"One study found that in Florida CCW holders were 300 times less likely than the general population to commit a crime. The firearm crime rate among license holders, annually averaging only several crimes per 100,000 licensees, is a fraction of the rate for the state as a whole. Between the beginning of Florida’s permitting program and the end of 2005, the state issued 1,104,468 concealed weapons permits. During that time period; 3,643 permits were revoked—a rate of about .3 percent. Of those revocations; 2,941 involved a crime after licensure; 157 of those crimes involved the use of a firearm. "
"A Texas study found that CCW holders in that state were "5.7 times less likely to commit a violent crime, and 14 times less likely to commit a non-violent offense."
Virginia Tech Massacre goes to show...
Submitted on February 15th, 2008 by Anonymous...that a concealed weapon in the hands of the right person could have made a difference.
Did you realize that one of the students that got trapped with the gunman had a concealed weapons permit, and was a pistol competitor, but yet didn't carry to school because it was illegal for people who had legally obtained the right to carry?
That boy could have saved lives, if not all 32, maybe 1, maybe 10? What's the price of 1 life?
Criminals are not stopped by more gun laws.
Prevention at what cost?
Submitted on February 15th, 2008 by KansasGirlYour point about preventing what shootings already occur is well taken, but at what cost? How many more shootings would there be if guns were a staple on campuses around the nation? As it is, we face tragedies that are carefully planned and premeditated. They are the result of more than a moment of heated anger. Yes, occasionally a concealed weapon in the hands of a "hero" seems like a better alternative, but how many more shootings would we have if weapons were always at hand?
These tragedies should be prevented, I would never suggest otherwise. But there are better ways.
All-level crisis.
Submitted on February 15th, 2008 by MHennessyin the last couple days, my area suffered a shooting at a middle school, where now a fourteen year old boy faces attempted murder charges. The reason for this is an ongoing dispute between the boys. Luckily the victim survived after taking two bullets in the head. My point is that the restriction zones are probably the least of the reasons linked to school shootings. If they want to, they can and will.
Gunning for Children
Submitted on February 14th, 2008 by Chuck_JohnsonIf you think about sociopaths, they thrive on control. You have infinite control when you are in an environment where no one can oppose you.
Va. Tech, Luby's and the Colorado Church Shooting
Submitted on February 14th, 2008 by AnonymousCompare the three, and know that a citizen carrying a firearm could have prevented all three - and did in one instance.
Gun free zones are killing zones for those who are bent on harming innocent civilians. They know these places will offer little resistance - and they target them.
How many times do you see something like this happen at a police station, military base, or even a gun store. Hardly ever, because they know people will shoot back.