
What did he know? When did he know it?
Did Bush lie us into Iraq? New database documents false claims
As long as the Iraq War continues -- and probably longer -- there will be debates about how we got into the war. Now the argument has flared up again: A new online database from the Center for Public Integrity counts 935 false statements from Bush Administration officials saying Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, links to terrorists, or both.
What can we learn from this look at the past? And will it make any difference for future U.S. actions?















Thoughts
Re: I'm probably misunderstanding you
Submitted on January 23rd, 2008 by Jim LakelyJoel, you say:
Yes, more or less.
U.N. Resolution 1441 gave Iraq "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations," as well as the boatload of previous resolutions, which Iraq failed to do on many counts.
The resolution, which passed unanimously, also stated:
And:
Now, President Bush was quite clear in his address to the UN two months before 1441 passed what "serious consequences" meant. The United States was, and remains, the only entity capable of forcing compliance with "world opinion" as expressed in UN resolutions -- if they are mean anything other than empty bluster. And in a post-9/11 world, we were going to use force to give the series of UN resolutions teeth.
Iraq
Submitted on January 23rd, 2008 by GregRLawsonAs a supporter of the action in Iraq, I am dismayed by the poor advocacy of the action by the Bush Administration. John McCain (who isn't the President- yet) always did a better job articulating the reasons for the war and the dangers of what could happen if things fell apart.
The fact that all we can do now is point acrimonious fingers back and forth is a tragedy that saps our national unity. I hope we can get it back.
I'm probably misunderstanding you
Submitted on January 23rd, 2008 by JoelJim, you say:
It sounds like you're saying that we needed to go to war because we were ready to go to war; the "ready to strike" didn't happen in a vacuum, did it?
Iraq/al-Qaida connection
Submitted on January 23rd, 2008 by Jim LakelyThere is still some dispute over whether Iraq had direct ties to al-Qaida. Is it definite that Iraqi intelliegence officers met with al-Qaida planners in Indonesia and Prague? No. Wholly disproven to my satisfaction? No -- not when Czech intelligence stands by their story.
Regardless, it is pretty much without dispute that the late "al-Qaida in Iraq" leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, joined bin Laden in Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks. He was injured in Afghanistan fighting U.S. troops and sought treatment in Baghdad, a city in which nothing happened without the dictator Saddam's notice and approval. Zarqawi also operated terrorists camps in Northern Iraq. While that was a no-fly zone for Saddam, he still exerted a modicum of control on the ground.
Anyway, I don't want to get into the weeds on that stuff. (And let's not even get into how Saddam's WMD might have been spirited to Syria before the invasion.) For the moment, let's just cite an excerpt from story in the May 2002 Atlantic Monthly by Mark "Black Hawk Down" Bowden -- a consistent critic of the invasion of Iraq -- titled "Tales of the Tyrant."
We can argue about "lies" or "misrepresentations" or "mistakes" until we're red and blue in the face. But it is clear that in a post-9/11 world -- in which bin Laden hoped to kill tens of thousands in the WTC, not the 3,000 he did -- that what we thought we knew about Saddam's WMD (but certainly knew about his regime and aims against America) was too great a threat to let fester.
Iraq war critics tend to argue in a geo-political vacuum, but it is important to see the invasion in context. If we had backed down after being poised to strike, the entire U.N. "containment" regime would have certainly collapsed; it was starting to already. Saddam would then have begun, unmolested by the "international community," plotting and executing his revenge against America. And we could not bet our national security and the safety of potentially millions of innocents that a man who used WMD against his own people would not use them against us -- either through his own terrorists, or al-Qaida who shared his same fantastic resentments.
End of story, as far as I'm concerned.