Theory is nothing more than a radom explaination of facts or ideas. These explanations have to be tested for factual accuracy but has not as of yet been done or those tests have not yet yeilded the data necessary to move the Theory to factual status.
A hypothesis is nothing more than a general idea about something. Its really nothing more than that.
The theory of Evolution has absolutely no proven facts. None once so ever.
This is where you are flawed. Natural selection has been proven and has been tested for accuracy. Evolution has not.
The problem here is that Creationist allow Natural selection identical to evolution. Thus it proves nothing.
Theory means that testing has not yeilded proof or that testing can not be done because it may not be possible to test the theory.
The theory has to be testable and has to be based on known facts otherwise its a hypothesis. Just because the test may not be possible does not mean that there is not test possible.
Thus your argument is flawed just like the theory of evolution. Which has been proven time and again as failed false theory.
The definition of a theory has some weaknesses in evolutionary theory. "repeatedly tested" how can we test now something that has happened in the past. Cataclysmic events cannot be repeatedly tested. "widely accepted" popular does not mean it is correct nor incorrect.
I have no objection to a person accepting whatever origins theories (worldview)they want. However, I strongly object to discrimination and disrespect when a person accepts a worldview that may differ from the "widely accepted".
Suggesting a candidate is insane, unfit, etc. because of their belief in God or disbelief runs contrary to the freedom we enjoy under the Constitution....see Subject line
1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
Freddym, what you are describing is a "hypothesis". The theory of evolution has just as much evidence, if not more than, as the theory of gravity. Would you go so far as to say that the theory of gravity is also unproven? If an idea has been labeled as a theory, then it has an extraordinary amount of evidence, such as facts and testable observations, backing it up, and evolution has met and exceeded those requirements.
Now onto the question at hand. I'm an atheist, and I'll be voting for the candidate who I think will do the best job preserving the separation of church and state. Now before everyone jumps down my throat, I understand that that phrase never appears in the Constitution and came from an 1802 letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, but the phrase embodies part of what the First Amendment is all about. The candidate who can I trust to protect that concept, as well as other factors, will be getting my vote.
This social trait of Free Thinking is a dinosaur. Thinking outside of 'govment' education?
To question an academic-politician about ones origin was crime against humanity to some empires.
Theory is just that. Unproven. Education is the process of learning how to learn. It is not 'this is all you need to know'. Mostly based on self dicipline applied to learning to detect half-truths vs half-lies.
Evolution is a theory. No empirical data. The theory has stretched the band that connects the dots so tight that the band is transparent.
The man who founded evolution was more interested in disproving the Christain God versus his God 'Mother Earth'. His followers number in the millions today.
Free Thinking is healthy. All people that contribute to any society must have a value system that incorporates several tenants of conduct. One is the belief that you the person is held in purpose by some higher structure. To some this structure may be 'mother earth' or a god that defines his image inside 'faith'.
Today there is only 2 possibilities to consider in human origin. Both within 'intelligent' design rhetoric.
Attacking an institution is the same as attacking the person. If I have a social defect, in YOUR opinion, and you demogogically condem my government institution with out substent solutions you have attacked my person. As an example, paying money to a person based on skin color for some unqualified claim of wrong doing is not a solution.
The Reverand Wright has violated my person. His God will dam a nation? If he belives this, then his God is not my God. Two differant religions. My faith will not allow me to use his name (God) in vane. The question that will define values "is this God's money, or governments money?"
If I went to a church and repetitively heard contradicting statements about my core faith values, time to leave that church.
Government could also appear as a religion to some. This has been evident in human past. Is there a new 'government god'?
Geez, I have never seen so much heated debate based on a lot of bunk and trash.
The truth about religion.
Some people claim to have religion but in reality have none.
Others claim to have no religion yet are very religious.
Some people claim that if you talk to God that makes you crazy because they who call you crazy can not hear God.
Those that hear God think that those who can not hear God are either crazy or on the road to Hell and will burn burn burn.
Then there are those who believe that God only talks to those of the right religion and the rest are either liars, crazy or will burn burn burn.
Others think that if a person believes in God, that it makes them crazy and from this craziness they start wars.
The above was a short list of the debate that is raging here and I took them from the positions being played out!
Its sheer loonacy!
The truth is that no one is right and also no one is wrong.
Just as there is no perfect person in the world today or can be found anywhere. There will be no perfect president. Never mind about the failings of the traits of the people who pick politics as a career. Generally a polician is deficient in all areas because they want to be a politician!
The truth is that the best candidate for president is:
1. Believes in God and is in an acceptable religion.
By acceptable means a religion which has proper morals, human rights, equality and other good things. Does not believe in Murdering anyone who does not believe what they believe or the other things down that road. It Is by the religion named by the candidate that we know what the moral standards are for that individual and/or should expect for that individual to display during the presidentcy. Person that may claim religion but rarely goes to church and does highly questionable things would show lack of morals as to what is the moral standard. (In the US, Its the Christian Moral Standard. But in a few more years, Paganism may be the moral standard which is no standard at all.)
2. Is honest! No lies found in them.
This should be obvious. If a person can not tell the truth and is known as a Liar, then how can anyone know when the country is at an incredible crisis requiring massive sacrifice that they are speaking true or just telling another lie to bring about some action that they want rather than what is good and proper for the whole country.
Ex: Hoovers recovery program and denial of a massive resession indicators which caused America to sink into the great Depression faster and deeper than it should have.
3. Proper character by having honorable people around them. This is important because whom you associate with is by your own choice. You can not pick relatives but you choose your friends and business partners. Its though these people that shows the true character which is the real you.
4. Shows proper life choices.
This is obvious for oh so many reasons.
In other words, if the person has been irresponsible in something then its obvious that they will be even more irresponsible as president because of the power and position they will have. Thus a presidentcy of horrors will unfold as the these things play out because of poor, bad, or plain dumb, ignorance or arrogant choices made.
5. Honors and respects the nation. If A person can not respect the Flag, National anthem, Military and the people who are the heart of the nation, then they should never be allowed to serve in any position or office of the country! To have them in any office, is disrepect, embarrassment and dishonorable of the people of the nation.
Example: A candidate can not act like a King or queen in the middle ages and not respect the subjects they serve. Its called service not the other way around. When Kings and queens do not serve the people, then they get their heads lopped off or hung or shot or run though as history has shown. So Like Obama saying that the people are bitter and clinging to guns and religion, then He has taken the position like a Royal who can expect the people to come and seize them for execution. Like "They have no bread do they. Then, let them eat cake." Marie Antoinette was beheaded some 3 weeks after supposedly quoting this line in 1793.
Its these things that are important. Not some veiled argument where half truths and half wrongs are thrown around.
clinton will keep our values while obama will have them removed especially since he doesnt believe in our god the first thing he will do if he gets in office is ban the pledge of allegiance from all schools and public functions he is muslim
Not questioning, I reject evolutionary assumptions after careful consideration. It does not mean I have not studied Science. I assure you I am well-read and educated (at least by U.S. standards). Why don't you ever question what you are told and make up your own mind?
If you start with philosophy/ Intro to Logic, most of evolutionary "science" makes very unscientific assumptions and "just so" stories. Interesting and comical at times, but not science.
Interesting, my experience has been just the opposite.
At the age of 5, Kindergarten teachers taught evolution, dinosaurs and a naturalistic explanation for all that is (no God). As an adult I have began to questions those assumptions.
You nail it man. Now I wish everyone else will including black and whites.
I do have to say this do you believe Rev. Wright is against white america or is he going at the Government?
Senator Obama is about change but we have black just like White that do not want this man to suceed so sad. One reason is that the Government is scare that he going to go against them.
When I was an adolescent and unwise, I believed in everything, including religion and God. Now I am grown up and little wiser to understand the reality, which is, there is NO GOD. It is our falacy and sheer ignorance that we believe whatever others tell us. Go back in history of human civilization and try to learn what Buddha once said, "There is no God, and if you believe in something like that, that is your own personal business, no one has right to change your belief (faith)." Buddha means enlighetened man "not God," and preached about how to be a compassionate individual, caring for this life, and not to be concerned about the life hereafter, which one elude to be heaven to oneself and hell for others. Quality of life matters - be above the political sound bites.
I agree that many people have values shaped by "religious sensibilities". But is there not a shadow assumption in the question - that folks who do not fall into a neat relgious demographic lack a value system? In numerous polls, including primary exit polls, there have been similar questions, the inference being that folks who do not inhabit the media's one second sound bite definition of "religion" must not have any values. Don't we all make decisions based on a moral value system of one kind or another?
Anonymous in A person's religion should wrote, "A person's religion should have no bearing on whether they are voted into office or not." That wasn't the question being asked. Should we use our moral code in picking for whom we vote for in an election was the question.
I don't think the question conflates "religion" with "values." But it does acknowledge that many people have values they believe are shaped by their religious sensibilities, and that different people then approach the civic arena with different approaches as a result.
Which "religious values" does the question refer to? Love your neighbor as yourself? Judge not lest you be judged? "Do no harm? Thou shalt not kill?
The question conflates "religion" with "values". One can have a moral value system without belonging to a religion. You can love your neighbor, or at least try real hard. You can practice empathy and try to walk in someone else's shoes. And you can be opposed to the murder of our sons and daughters in an immoral war.
Everyone focuses on color and religion. I am a second generation American and while I am not black my family were slaves a long time ago.
Each and every Febuary we hear about black history, then we hear about Miss Black USA, the Black movie awards and so on. Is that too not racism? What if there were a Miss White America? Who would Rev Al Sharpton get fired then? Let's keep in mind that is was a white man that freed the black slaves, it was mostly whites that ran the underground railroad!
How about we try something different - Let's learn American history all year long, black white, yellow, red or whatever! Let's have a Miss America, Let's have movie awards, let's stop the reverse racism because all that does is unite color and makes a strong Presidential hopefull like Obama get pushed aside because of his skin!
If the blacks in this country really wanted a black President then they need to stop the bickering over a european golf announcer making a comment about a close friend of hers. Or a shock jock quoting a black rap star. This is what kills the chance of a black President.
Hillary you stood by while your husband had his fun in the oval office. You are a poser and you need to stand by while Obama and McCain have an election.
Obama good luck and I hope you keep your head up and stress to your fellow blacks in America that unity does not need an NAACP just like whites do not need a KKK.
McCain you are getting my vote because I can't cast a vote that puts people like Rev Wright closer to the White House. This country needs to gain some respect not be the laughing stock of the world. That is exactly what Rev Wright, Rev Sharpton, Imus, and many others have made us.
We focus on Religion and Color while our men and women die overseas and back home workers are loosing their homes. We loose our homes while the Americam Media gives Rev Wright 4 days of news coverage. How about running ads for companies that are actually hiring in the US?
Mexican crabs sit in a hole and when other crabs walk by they pull them down in that whole with them. Is that what we are just a bunch of Mexican Crabs?
Sorry if the Mexican crab reference bothered anyone but get over it!
I am so thankful and relieved to find there are more people that still have the true American spirit and that is a true belief in God and Country. You are right all children in America are the product of a non-beleiving society who give lip service to God without adhering to his words. As all of us can thank ourselves for the state America is in. We are so far gone as a nation of non-believers that we can't stand to hear critisism and look inward to see our faults. We are all gone to hell in a hand basket on a sliding board because we are so narcisistic that we think that because we are American we don't make mistakes and anyone that has the audacity to bring forth our mistakes we ostrisize. But again We must see that " God will not be mocked " and we will never escape his wrath. You should not look to the messenger but the message. If not history will repeat itself.
Although most of the left bases their vote off of such lofty things as hope and change, which I would argue are just as sensible as the divinity of Christ.
Chuck Johnson is a student at Claremont McKenna College. Feel free to
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This message is in reply to most of the ones I read on 4/28/08--
As I read the thoughts and rhetoric of many, I realize that it's common to judge others for their opinions which differ from theirs (or the one). Then another talks about the "progression of science, the less room for 'your god.'" Let me quote a famous author, "Oh you of little (or no) faith." Science can do all the searching it wants to disprove the existence of God; the belief in Our God comes from inside--knowing that we are loved, wanted, and appreciated--God said that He knows the very marrow of us all, and still loves us. There is a place in believing in God and the goodness of man for our eco-system, is is called love. If society loved our planet as much as they loved themselves there would be no worry or concern about our planet--but, instead the love of money is far greater than love. I know that this four-letter word (love) is easily spewed from our mouths on a daily basis and that this love rarely lasts (often); but by loving you do right by God and Jesus, people, and this planet. The "status of Black America is what they make it to be," well this is another biased opinion for the books. Black America does not choose the strangle-hold of racism; as you your self said, "We live in a racially unbalanced society." Not because Black Americans chose to, because society chose this as a way of separation. Lastly, I vote--not based on religion--based on my belief of who is the best person for the job.
Has anyone been watching the magnificent HBO "JOHN ADAMS" series? This country was founded to allow ALL beliefs to be tolerated, and furthermore, to SEPARATE church from state. How on earth do one's personal religious
beliefs affect one's ability to lead? Non religious does not mean amoral. How many preachers do we have to see preach one thing and do another before we recognize that they have egos like the rest of us, as well as significant economic interest in collecting a "following'. Too many will be lead anywhere the loudest voice calls.
This country might have been founded on religion but as an African American our forefathers were slaves under the religion that many whites used to oppress black peoples. We know like other groups of people that hate is debilitating. Rev. Wright would not be such a huge issue if the media did not give him media coverage. Stop the coverage and see how powerful he is. As much as I love black preaching, and loved his speech at the NAACP, his statements since that time has truly saddened and embarrassed me. One CNN commentator, whose comments I had a great deal of admiration for and who used to give pretty balanced and unbiased comments, said Obama needs to show some anger, anger, anger at Rev. Wright. Wow! that would be just what the doctor ordered - anger, division, hate. Why must blood be drawn to prove that people are serious about their opinions. Do we really have to torment, and torture people to prove a point. This would really have license to say Obama is just another angry black man. I was taken aback to here this advice from the media. These remarks instigate the same hate you protest. The media continues to talk about black and white, race, and how many blacks are doing this and how many whites are doing that---why! Why do you continuously make distinctions all day, all night long. I think you are making it a race issue by continuing to bring up these separations. Hillary Clinton had a part in lighting the fire to all of this bickering. She lit the fire and is watching it burn. The media is so easily manipulated. I thought you were smarter. Some people specialize in throwing rocks and hiding their hands. If you notice when the Rev Wright/Obama media blitz is out Hillary is quiet. Think she's enjoying this? I think the Republicans want Hillary to win as a strategy because they know they will win against her. I think the republicans want Hillary to win because many of them are used to whites running the country and are afraid, downright scared of another culture running the country. Fear is a very powerful emotion. Fear is what fueled Hitler,the Klu Klux Klan,the Skin Heads, etc. The fear of whites and the wrong they've done to others, from a systemic perspective, is the reason whites themselves are so fearful. I see fear in whites. Fear usually comes before hate. Blacks and whites have race issues we need to work on. Neither race is clear or better when it comes to race - one for being involved with racism from a perpetrators perspective and the other for being involved with racism from a victims perspective. We all need therapy when it comes to racism. The world is watching and I'm sad that they have to see once again, since the civil rights movement, how utterly immature, selfish, and mean we are around race - God gave none of us a prescription for who we wanted to be. None of us asked to be the race we are but all of us can control our character and this is disgraceful - yet again. Young people are so far ahead of this. It is the older generation who continues to carry the dissention. No wonder our children call us hypocrits.Our children don't like it people - they are watching.
OBAMA -- PLEASE BE STEADFAST, STAY THE COURSE, AND LET NO ONE SEPARATE YOU FROM THE GOAL OF WORKING WITH US THE PEOPLE - BLACK & WHITE TO HELP MAKE THIS UNITED STATES A MODEL OF HUMANITY!
I have a religion, I am American Yes we are suckers. I would still rather be American. You see America was founded with religion, Its part of our proud history that our lawyers in congress are taking away. Wait, so do have a warm climate that far North ? Domb question,
So get Canida to invade Florida and Ill think about goig there ayyy. Just a thought. Thank You.
"But the Al Sharptons... far outweigh the... good and charitable people in organized churches, at least in the matter of image". I agree with you - 'image' being the key word. Dishonest people in any organization can tarnish the image of the whole.
1/2 full take ..."many good and charitable people in organized churches" far outweigh leadership in number and deeds. Religion is a crutch to help people cope with reality.
"Religion is a crutch..." Don't forget guns, antipathy (racism), anti-immigrant sentiment Obamican?
yeah you seem pretty hostile toward all religion there has to be some underlying reason for that. you choose to see the bad rather than the good. I don't care about what the media reports on, I care about statistics...look up the facts mr.brain
I'll thank you to not define my beliefs for me. In fact i have a church membership, which one is none of your business.
If religious bodies would police some of the many charlatans in their ranks, they might get some of the respect they demand. But the Al Sharptons, Jeremiah Wrights, Jerry Falwells, and Warren Jeffs far outweigh the many good and charitable people in organized churches, at least in the matter of image. And we won't even touch on the cases of child abuse that some churches specialize in.
Religion is a crutch for people who can't cope with reality.
A person's religion should have no bearing on whether they are voted into office or not. Although, should they have no religion, I would be more inclined to vote.
Many would have me believe that you have to be religious to have a conscience. But I know different. I know that almost every genocide ever committed was carried out in the name of religion.
The more science progresses, the less room there is for your god. We may never completely disprove it, but we may never completely disprove the tea pot orbiting the sun.
Hey wishnevsky you should try to break out of that membrane you are locked inside called secular progressiveness and look at the world around you. religious organizations in america donate more money to help the disadvantaged people of this world than any other private organization in this world..look it up
No matter how you analyze it, religion has been benifical to society. It brings groups of people together for a like cause and sets guidelines for conduct. I think most sane people can agree that the ten commandments are appropriate guidlines for the behavior of humans in society. The only problem I see is that there should have been ten ecological commandments to dictate how we treat the environment. Radical religious conflicts have plagued mankind for thousands of years and could be our downfall, but if everyone on the planet lived by the ten commandments this world would be a more beutiful place. If only there was a place in religion for the treatment of this planet. -edog
You would have to prove that there is no moral code any where in the world that is not based on religion to prove your point.
And you would also have to show that all moral codes based on religion are equivalent and contain the same prescriptions and penalties to show that God has any real influence on humanity.
I can think of one code that has only the slightest reference to God and none to organized religion. It is called the United States Constitution.
Was congress talking to god also when they made the choice to support the war in iraq...I didn't think so. And by the way if religion had not been invented we would have no moral code by which to operate and we would live in a society where anything goes. what would that look like?
1. the President confessed faith (belief in God)
2. The President (w/Congress)invaded Iraq.
Therefore, he must have invaded Iraq because of his faith? Not So.
Nonsense? A logical fallacy to expect insane actions from an insane person? We have a president that thinks God talks to him, who has no respect for "reality" and is moved by inexplicable emotion.
This is proving to work out well in what manner?
The Constitution does not requite one to have a religion, or to be free from religion, but then it does not require a citizen to be literate, or sane, or non-delusional, or even rational.
Some small-souled people prefer these qualities in their leaders, however.
And I'd rather not have some delusional person representing my country. The last one's delusions caused the lives of countless thousands to be lost. Its 2008, isn't it time we stopped with the fairy tales and leave our invisible friends out of real life affairs?
I would tend to not vote for a person who expresses strong public religious affiliations or mouths religious platitudes. What was it Jesus said about no praying as the Pharisee's do?
The religious con is the easiest con there is. Quiet reflective religious beliefs and acting on those beliefs silently is one of the hardest of virtues.
When people say they are for religious values it more or less means a choice for moral values in the traditional sense.
Does Religious views play more of a roll than people think?
Absolutely! Religious views by the full spectrum of the US society has made it clear that this is the case especially now and in this election. From Rev Wright to views on Mormanism are being played out along with hatred and under the radar racism.
People are looking at these items more closely this election than every before. So when people say its not a factor, they are not telling the truth.
Two main points will show that I am speaking true.
The FLDS which is nothing more than the right wing more conservative branch of the main stream Mormans its no wonder people are skeptical. Its one of those issues that has been playing out over the last 12 months.
The only difference between main stream mormanism and the FLDS is on two issues. Plurality of wives and wife selection.
Both use the same religious books and the same doctrine. The difference is what was done to gain state status for Utah but the truth is that some 40% of mormans who are in the LDS are in fact followers of FLDS. In other words, they have more than one wife and do bride selection as they call it or follow a discustingly arranged marriage pact to link certain families together in the same manner as the old royalty lines of Europe.
Then you have those who look at Rev Wright. Although he has done many good works in his community, he simply destroyed those good works with his anti american and racist positions.
The status of Black America is what they make it to be. Black America can either choose to continue racism as its strangle hold or rise above it.
What most people seem to miss is that racism is a two way street. There are just as many or from what I have seen personally by percentage more black racists than white ones.
Racism spawns more racism. Hatred spawns more hatred. Just look at the most best world example of pure racism and pure hatred. Shiite verses Sunni. In this example, its pure racism and pure hatred that are rooted in the two positions. It goes extremely beyond who is the successor to Muhammad.
Its a pure cycle of hatred and racism that you see being played out with each killing and bombing.
Thus its time that all people in america move on. Take the high road and say, I will not make choices based on color or skin but who will do what is best for my family, community and country.
That may look racially inbalanced but the truth is that we live in a racially imbalanced society. There are more whites than Black and there is more Hispanics than Blacks in America today. Thus its not racism when a company has 2 black people out of 50.
Sometimes its other factors. Level of education, experience, simply who applied for the job.
I run 3 businesses. I have currently zero blacks working for me. Am I a racist? No. Just that no blacks have applied for the jobs I had when those jobs were posted at the local emplyment agency and newspapers.
Do I have a diverse racial make up. Yes. of the current 53 employees, 36 are Hispanic. 3 are Native American, 1 Asian and the rest are white.
Why do I not have more whites? For the same reason why I do not have one single Black. They did not show up to apply for the job or they just were not qualified for the job they applied for.
I can not hire a person who is not qualified that may injure or kill another employee because he does not have the education or certifications to do the job.
Have I been reviewed for selective hiring. Yes. 4 years ago and I was given a clean bill of health by both the local NAACP and the government concerning my hiring practice.
But the truth is that we all have a standard that was rooted in religous values and in our life experiences.
We all have seen racism either being played out before us or at us.
But the truth is we all are voting based on our perspective of religon.
what religious values? begging the question aren't you?
there are religious anti-values: ignorance, arrogance, conformism, resentment, hatred, and if possible, violence. especially within xianity and islam, but also in judaism and zoroastrianism. each a religion founded on desires for revenge.
you really buy into the sophism that morality must have a religious foundation. what ignorance! historically wrong; philosophically wrong!
Religion or Race should not be a part of Politics. Your Higher Power is your own business. Bills morals were is own business. I admire a women who stands by her husband through thick or thin.
Love for a husband and wife is something to be admired.
Any man who is offered a blow job is going to take it, now be honest.
That was a set up operation anyway, he was baited abd bit, shame on him. But there should be no shame on Hillary for standing by him. As for president, she shows she can be loyal,admitt mistakes.
Who cares where they got thier mony as long as it was legal. That should not be anyones business. Would like to tell the world how much money you make, and how you make it???? I wOuld like to say more, but running out of space. GO HILLARY
Thoughts
Flawed argument
Submitted on April 30th, 2008 by PabloTheory is nothing more than a radom explaination of facts or ideas. These explanations have to be tested for factual accuracy but has not as of yet been done or those tests have not yet yeilded the data necessary to move the Theory to factual status.
A hypothesis is nothing more than a general idea about something. Its really nothing more than that.
The theory of Evolution has absolutely no proven facts. None once so ever.
This is where you are flawed. Natural selection has been proven and has been tested for accuracy. Evolution has not.
The problem here is that Creationist allow Natural selection identical to evolution. Thus it proves nothing.
Theory means that testing has not yeilded proof or that testing can not be done because it may not be possible to test the theory.
The theory has to be testable and has to be based on known facts otherwise its a hypothesis. Just because the test may not be possible does not mean that there is not test possible.
Thus your argument is flawed just like the theory of evolution. Which has been proven time and again as failed false theory.
Atheists need not apply
Submitted on April 30th, 2008 by rom12921The definition of a theory has some weaknesses in evolutionary theory. "repeatedly tested" how can we test now something that has happened in the past. Cataclysmic events cannot be repeatedly tested. "widely accepted" popular does not mean it is correct nor incorrect.
I have no objection to a person accepting whatever origins theories (worldview)they want. However, I strongly object to discrimination and disrespect when a person accepts a worldview that may differ from the "widely accepted".
Suggesting a candidate is insane, unfit, etc. because of their belief in God or disbelief runs contrary to the freedom we enjoy under the Constitution....see Subject line
The definition of the word "Theory"
Submitted on April 30th, 2008 by AnonymousTheory
n., pl. -ries.
1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
Freddym, what you are describing is a "hypothesis". The theory of evolution has just as much evidence, if not more than, as the theory of gravity. Would you go so far as to say that the theory of gravity is also unproven? If an idea has been labeled as a theory, then it has an extraordinary amount of evidence, such as facts and testable observations, backing it up, and evolution has met and exceeded those requirements.
Now onto the question at hand. I'm an atheist, and I'll be voting for the candidate who I think will do the best job preserving the separation of church and state. Now before everyone jumps down my throat, I understand that that phrase never appears in the Constitution and came from an 1802 letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, but the phrase embodies part of what the First Amendment is all about. The candidate who can I trust to protect that concept, as well as other factors, will be getting my vote.
Free thinking
Submitted on April 30th, 2008 by freddymThis social trait of Free Thinking is a dinosaur. Thinking outside of 'govment' education?
To question an academic-politician about ones origin was crime against humanity to some empires.
Theory is just that. Unproven. Education is the process of learning how to learn. It is not 'this is all you need to know'. Mostly based on self dicipline applied to learning to detect half-truths vs half-lies.
Evolution is a theory. No empirical data. The theory has stretched the band that connects the dots so tight that the band is transparent.
The man who founded evolution was more interested in disproving the Christain God versus his God 'Mother Earth'. His followers number in the millions today.
Free Thinking is healthy. All people that contribute to any society must have a value system that incorporates several tenants of conduct. One is the belief that you the person is held in purpose by some higher structure. To some this structure may be 'mother earth' or a god that defines his image inside 'faith'.
Today there is only 2 possibilities to consider in human origin. Both within 'intelligent' design rhetoric.
Right OFF
Submitted on April 30th, 2008 by freddymAttacking an institution is the same as attacking the person. If I have a social defect, in YOUR opinion, and you demogogically condem my government institution with out substent solutions you have attacked my person. As an example, paying money to a person based on skin color for some unqualified claim of wrong doing is not a solution.
The Reverand Wright has violated my person. His God will dam a nation? If he belives this, then his God is not my God. Two differant religions. My faith will not allow me to use his name (God) in vane. The question that will define values "is this God's money, or governments money?"
If I went to a church and repetitively heard contradicting statements about my core faith values, time to leave that church.
Government could also appear as a religion to some. This has been evident in human past. Is there a new 'government god'?
My oh my!
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by PabloLet the religious debate begin!
Geez, I have never seen so much heated debate based on a lot of bunk and trash.
The truth about religion.
Some people claim to have religion but in reality have none.
Others claim to have no religion yet are very religious.
Some people claim that if you talk to God that makes you crazy because they who call you crazy can not hear God.
Those that hear God think that those who can not hear God are either crazy or on the road to Hell and will burn burn burn.
Then there are those who believe that God only talks to those of the right religion and the rest are either liars, crazy or will burn burn burn.
Others think that if a person believes in God, that it makes them crazy and from this craziness they start wars.
The above was a short list of the debate that is raging here and I took them from the positions being played out!
Its sheer loonacy!
The truth is that no one is right and also no one is wrong.
Just as there is no perfect person in the world today or can be found anywhere. There will be no perfect president. Never mind about the failings of the traits of the people who pick politics as a career. Generally a polician is deficient in all areas because they want to be a politician!
The truth is that the best candidate for president is:
1. Believes in God and is in an acceptable religion.
By acceptable means a religion which has proper morals, human rights, equality and other good things. Does not believe in Murdering anyone who does not believe what they believe or the other things down that road. It Is by the religion named by the candidate that we know what the moral standards are for that individual and/or should expect for that individual to display during the presidentcy. Person that may claim religion but rarely goes to church and does highly questionable things would show lack of morals as to what is the moral standard. (In the US, Its the Christian Moral Standard. But in a few more years, Paganism may be the moral standard which is no standard at all.)
2. Is honest! No lies found in them.
This should be obvious. If a person can not tell the truth and is known as a Liar, then how can anyone know when the country is at an incredible crisis requiring massive sacrifice that they are speaking true or just telling another lie to bring about some action that they want rather than what is good and proper for the whole country.
Ex: Hoovers recovery program and denial of a massive resession indicators which caused America to sink into the great Depression faster and deeper than it should have.
3. Proper character by having honorable people around them. This is important because whom you associate with is by your own choice. You can not pick relatives but you choose your friends and business partners. Its though these people that shows the true character which is the real you.
4. Shows proper life choices.
This is obvious for oh so many reasons.
In other words, if the person has been irresponsible in something then its obvious that they will be even more irresponsible as president because of the power and position they will have. Thus a presidentcy of horrors will unfold as the these things play out because of poor, bad, or plain dumb, ignorance or arrogant choices made.
5. Honors and respects the nation. If A person can not respect the Flag, National anthem, Military and the people who are the heart of the nation, then they should never be allowed to serve in any position or office of the country! To have them in any office, is disrepect, embarrassment and dishonorable of the people of the nation.
Example: A candidate can not act like a King or queen in the middle ages and not respect the subjects they serve. Its called service not the other way around. When Kings and queens do not serve the people, then they get their heads lopped off or hung or shot or run though as history has shown. So Like Obama saying that the people are bitter and clinging to guns and religion, then He has taken the position like a Royal who can expect the people to come and seize them for execution. Like "They have no bread do they. Then, let them eat cake." Marie Antoinette was beheaded some 3 weeks after supposedly quoting this line in 1793.
Its these things that are important. Not some veiled argument where half truths and half wrongs are thrown around.
Clinton values?
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by AnonymousIf it wasn't so sad, it would be funny. One shouldn't have to keep repeating facts but here goes - Senator Obama is a Christian - not a Muslim.
my pick is clinton,obama is a fake
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by Anonymousclinton will keep our values while obama will have them removed especially since he doesnt believe in our god the first thing he will do if he gets in office is ban the pledge of allegiance from all schools and public functions he is muslim
Rejected
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by rom12921Not questioning, I reject evolutionary assumptions after careful consideration. It does not mean I have not studied Science. I assure you I am well-read and educated (at least by U.S. standards). Why don't you ever question what you are told and make up your own mind?
If you start with philosophy/ Intro to Logic, most of evolutionary "science" makes very unscientific assumptions and "just so" stories. Interesting and comical at times, but not science.
It sounds like you need to
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by AnonymousIt sounds like you need to pick up a book again. If you're questioning evolution, you have not been paying attention to science since you were 5.
color and religion
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by Anonymousi agree with you everything is about color and religion
presidents
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by Anonymousthe presedent should be either clinton or barack
Anonymous anti-me
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by rom12921Interesting, my experience has been just the opposite.
At the age of 5, Kindergarten teachers taught evolution, dinosaurs and a naturalistic explanation for all that is (no God). As an adult I have began to questions those assumptions.
Rev Wright is Against Whites not America
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by AnonymousTo quote Rev Wright "I spent 6 years in the Marines and 50 years in Chains!"
What BS, he was born with a silver spoon even his parents were not tied to slavery.
Read his bio on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wr... he is a fraud and a stupid man that needs the spotlight.
Right On:
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by AnonymousYou nail it man. Now I wish everyone else will including black and whites.
I do have to say this do you believe Rev. Wright is against white america or is he going at the Government?
Senator Obama is about change but we have black just like White that do not want this man to suceed so sad. One reason is that the Government is scare that he going to go against them.
Humanity not Religion
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by AnonymousWhen I was an adolescent and unwise, I believed in everything, including religion and God. Now I am grown up and little wiser to understand the reality, which is, there is NO GOD. It is our falacy and sheer ignorance that we believe whatever others tell us. Go back in history of human civilization and try to learn what Buddha once said, "There is no God, and if you believe in something like that, that is your own personal business, no one has right to change your belief (faith)." Buddha means enlighetened man "not God," and preached about how to be a compassionate individual, caring for this life, and not to be concerned about the life hereafter, which one elude to be heaven to oneself and hell for others. Quality of life matters - be above the political sound bites.
Conflating the word "religion" with the word "values"
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by AnonymousI agree that many people have values shaped by "religious sensibilities". But is there not a shadow assumption in the question - that folks who do not fall into a neat relgious demographic lack a value system? In numerous polls, including primary exit polls, there have been similar questions, the inference being that folks who do not inhabit the media's one second sound bite definition of "religion" must not have any values. Don't we all make decisions based on a moral value system of one kind or another?
Read the question correctly
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by DeanSMSAnonymous in A person's religion should wrote, "A person's religion should have no bearing on whether they are voted into office or not." That wasn't the question being asked. Should we use our moral code in picking for whom we vote for in an election was the question.
Cordially,
DeanSMS
Conflating religious values
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by JoelI don't think the question conflates "religion" with "values." But it does acknowledge that many people have values they believe are shaped by their religious sensibilities, and that different people then approach the civic arena with different approaches as a result.
But whose "values" are you referring to?
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by AnonymousWhich "religious values" does the question refer to? Love your neighbor as yourself? Judge not lest you be judged? "Do no harm? Thou shalt not kill?
The question conflates "religion" with "values". One can have a moral value system without belonging to a religion. You can love your neighbor, or at least try real hard. You can practice empathy and try to walk in someone else's shoes. And you can be opposed to the murder of our sons and daughters in an immoral war.
Forget Color, Forget Religion
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by AnonymousEveryone focuses on color and religion. I am a second generation American and while I am not black my family were slaves a long time ago.
Each and every Febuary we hear about black history, then we hear about Miss Black USA, the Black movie awards and so on. Is that too not racism? What if there were a Miss White America? Who would Rev Al Sharpton get fired then? Let's keep in mind that is was a white man that freed the black slaves, it was mostly whites that ran the underground railroad!
How about we try something different - Let's learn American history all year long, black white, yellow, red or whatever! Let's have a Miss America, Let's have movie awards, let's stop the reverse racism because all that does is unite color and makes a strong Presidential hopefull like Obama get pushed aside because of his skin!
If the blacks in this country really wanted a black President then they need to stop the bickering over a european golf announcer making a comment about a close friend of hers. Or a shock jock quoting a black rap star. This is what kills the chance of a black President.
Hillary you stood by while your husband had his fun in the oval office. You are a poser and you need to stand by while Obama and McCain have an election.
Obama good luck and I hope you keep your head up and stress to your fellow blacks in America that unity does not need an NAACP just like whites do not need a KKK.
McCain you are getting my vote because I can't cast a vote that puts people like Rev Wright closer to the White House. This country needs to gain some respect not be the laughing stock of the world. That is exactly what Rev Wright, Rev Sharpton, Imus, and many others have made us.
We focus on Religion and Color while our men and women die overseas and back home workers are loosing their homes. We loose our homes while the Americam Media gives Rev Wright 4 days of news coverage. How about running ads for companies that are actually hiring in the US?
Mexican crabs sit in a hole and when other crabs walk by they pull them down in that whole with them. Is that what we are just a bunch of Mexican Crabs?
Sorry if the Mexican crab reference bothered anyone but get over it!
Sean T From NC
Our Children Are Listening
Submitted on April 29th, 2008 by AnonymousI am so thankful and relieved to find there are more people that still have the true American spirit and that is a true belief in God and Country. You are right all children in America are the product of a non-beleiving society who give lip service to God without adhering to his words. As all of us can thank ourselves for the state America is in. We are so far gone as a nation of non-believers that we can't stand to hear critisism and look inward to see our faults. We are all gone to hell in a hand basket on a sliding board because we are so narcisistic that we think that because we are American we don't make mistakes and anyone that has the audacity to bring forth our mistakes we ostrisize. But again We must see that " God will not be mocked " and we will never escape his wrath. You should not look to the messenger but the message. If not history will repeat itself.
What Religion?
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by Chuck_JohnsonAlthough most of the left bases their vote off of such lofty things as hope and change, which I would argue are just as sensible as the divinity of Christ.
Chuck Johnson is a student at Claremont McKenna College. Feel free to
contact him.
Religon?
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousThis message is in reply to most of the ones I read on 4/28/08--
As I read the thoughts and rhetoric of many, I realize that it's common to judge others for their opinions which differ from theirs (or the one). Then another talks about the "progression of science, the less room for 'your god.'" Let me quote a famous author, "Oh you of little (or no) faith." Science can do all the searching it wants to disprove the existence of God; the belief in Our God comes from inside--knowing that we are loved, wanted, and appreciated--God said that He knows the very marrow of us all, and still loves us. There is a place in believing in God and the goodness of man for our eco-system, is is called love. If society loved our planet as much as they loved themselves there would be no worry or concern about our planet--but, instead the love of money is far greater than love. I know that this four-letter word (love) is easily spewed from our mouths on a daily basis and that this love rarely lasts (often); but by loving you do right by God and Jesus, people, and this planet. The "status of Black America is what they make it to be," well this is another biased opinion for the books. Black America does not choose the strangle-hold of racism; as you your self said, "We live in a racially unbalanced society." Not because Black Americans chose to, because society chose this as a way of separation. Lastly, I vote--not based on religion--based on my belief of who is the best person for the job.
John Adams
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousHas anyone been watching the magnificent HBO "JOHN ADAMS" series? This country was founded to allow ALL beliefs to be tolerated, and furthermore, to SEPARATE church from state. How on earth do one's personal religious
beliefs affect one's ability to lead? Non religious does not mean amoral. How many preachers do we have to see preach one thing and do another before we recognize that they have egos like the rest of us, as well as significant economic interest in collecting a "following'. Too many will be lead anywhere the loudest voice calls.
Our children are watching and listening
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousThis country might have been founded on religion but as an African American our forefathers were slaves under the religion that many whites used to oppress black peoples. We know like other groups of people that hate is debilitating. Rev. Wright would not be such a huge issue if the media did not give him media coverage. Stop the coverage and see how powerful he is. As much as I love black preaching, and loved his speech at the NAACP, his statements since that time has truly saddened and embarrassed me. One CNN commentator, whose comments I had a great deal of admiration for and who used to give pretty balanced and unbiased comments, said Obama needs to show some anger, anger, anger at Rev. Wright. Wow! that would be just what the doctor ordered - anger, division, hate. Why must blood be drawn to prove that people are serious about their opinions. Do we really have to torment, and torture people to prove a point. This would really have license to say Obama is just another angry black man. I was taken aback to here this advice from the media. These remarks instigate the same hate you protest. The media continues to talk about black and white, race, and how many blacks are doing this and how many whites are doing that---why! Why do you continuously make distinctions all day, all night long. I think you are making it a race issue by continuing to bring up these separations. Hillary Clinton had a part in lighting the fire to all of this bickering. She lit the fire and is watching it burn. The media is so easily manipulated. I thought you were smarter. Some people specialize in throwing rocks and hiding their hands. If you notice when the Rev Wright/Obama media blitz is out Hillary is quiet. Think she's enjoying this? I think the Republicans want Hillary to win as a strategy because they know they will win against her. I think the republicans want Hillary to win because many of them are used to whites running the country and are afraid, downright scared of another culture running the country. Fear is a very powerful emotion. Fear is what fueled Hitler,the Klu Klux Klan,the Skin Heads, etc. The fear of whites and the wrong they've done to others, from a systemic perspective, is the reason whites themselves are so fearful. I see fear in whites. Fear usually comes before hate. Blacks and whites have race issues we need to work on. Neither race is clear or better when it comes to race - one for being involved with racism from a perpetrators perspective and the other for being involved with racism from a victims perspective. We all need therapy when it comes to racism. The world is watching and I'm sad that they have to see once again, since the civil rights movement, how utterly immature, selfish, and mean we are around race - God gave none of us a prescription for who we wanted to be. None of us asked to be the race we are but all of us can control our character and this is disgraceful - yet again. Young people are so far ahead of this. It is the older generation who continues to carry the dissention. No wonder our children call us hypocrits.Our children don't like it people - they are watching.
OBAMA -- PLEASE BE STEADFAST, STAY THE COURSE, AND LET NO ONE SEPARATE YOU FROM THE GOAL OF WORKING WITH US THE PEOPLE - BLACK & WHITE TO HELP MAKE THIS UNITED STATES A MODEL OF HUMANITY!
Canadian
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousI have a religion, I am American Yes we are suckers. I would still rather be American. You see America was founded with religion, Its part of our proud history that our lawyers in congress are taking away. Wait, so do have a warm climate that far North ? Domb question,
So get Canida to invade Florida and Ill think about goig there ayyy. Just a thought. Thank You.
Religious Vote
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousI don't have a religion. I don't vote.
Oh yeah, and I'm Canadian. Your president always sucks, so have fun this time around! (Suckers)
wish on crutches
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by rom12921"But the Al Sharptons... far outweigh the... good and charitable people in organized churches, at least in the matter of image". I agree with you - 'image' being the key word. Dishonest people in any organization can tarnish the image of the whole.
1/2 full take ..."many good and charitable people in organized churches" far outweigh leadership in number and deeds. Religion is a crutch to help people cope with reality.
"Religion is a crutch..." Don't forget guns, antipathy (racism), anti-immigrant sentiment Obamican?
YOUR WELCOME!
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by Anonymousyeah you seem pretty hostile toward all religion there has to be some underlying reason for that. you choose to see the bad rather than the good. I don't care about what the media reports on, I care about statistics...look up the facts mr.brain
I'll thank you to not define
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by wishnevskyI'll thank you to not define my beliefs for me. In fact i have a church membership, which one is none of your business.
If religious bodies would police some of the many charlatans in their ranks, they might get some of the respect they demand. But the Al Sharptons, Jeremiah Wrights, Jerry Falwells, and Warren Jeffs far outweigh the many good and charitable people in organized churches, at least in the matter of image. And we won't even touch on the cases of child abuse that some churches specialize in.
Religion is a crutch for people who can't cope with reality.
A person's religion should
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousA person's religion should have no bearing on whether they are voted into office or not. Although, should they have no religion, I would be more inclined to vote.
Many would have me believe that you have to be religious to have a conscience. But I know different. I know that almost every genocide ever committed was carried out in the name of religion.
The more science progresses, the less room there is for your god. We may never completely disprove it, but we may never completely disprove the tea pot orbiting the sun.
Hey wishnevsky you should
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousHey wishnevsky you should try to break out of that membrane you are locked inside called secular progressiveness and look at the world around you. religious organizations in america donate more money to help the disadvantaged people of this world than any other private organization in this world..look it up
religions spew ani-values if you subsribe to them
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousNo matter how you analyze it, religion has been benifical to society. It brings groups of people together for a like cause and sets guidelines for conduct. I think most sane people can agree that the ten commandments are appropriate guidlines for the behavior of humans in society. The only problem I see is that there should have been ten ecological commandments to dictate how we treat the environment. Radical religious conflicts have plagued mankind for thousands of years and could be our downfall, but if everyone on the planet lived by the ten commandments this world would be a more beutiful place. If only there was a place in religion for the treatment of this planet. -edog
You would have to prove that
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by wishnevskyYou would have to prove that there is no moral code any where in the world that is not based on religion to prove your point.
And you would also have to show that all moral codes based on religion are equivalent and contain the same prescriptions and penalties to show that God has any real influence on humanity.
I can think of one code that has only the slightest reference to God and none to organized religion. It is called the United States Constitution.
religion is another term for delusion ??
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousWas congress talking to god also when they made the choice to support the war in iraq...I didn't think so. And by the way if religion had not been invented we would have no moral code by which to operate and we would live in a society where anything goes. what would that look like?
More of the sane
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by rom129211. the President confessed faith (belief in God)
2. The President (w/Congress)invaded Iraq.
Therefore, he must have invaded Iraq because of his faith? Not So.
Nonsense? A logical fallacy
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by wishnevskyNonsense? A logical fallacy to expect insane actions from an insane person? We have a president that thinks God talks to him, who has no respect for "reality" and is moved by inexplicable emotion.
This is proving to work out well in what manner?
The Constitution does not requite one to have a religion, or to be free from religion, but then it does not require a citizen to be literate, or sane, or non-delusional, or even rational.
Some small-souled people prefer these qualities in their leaders, however.
Nonsense
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by rom12921"...last one's delusions caused the lives of countless thousands to be lost..." This is the logical fallacy of false causation.
Freedom of (and from) religion is Constitutionally protected.
Just because a person comes to a different conclusion than you do does not mean they are delusional.
hedging your bets
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousI'd rather believe in a delusion and be wrong....than not believe in the delusion and be wrong...but then what the Hel....
Religion is just another term for delusion
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by AnonymousAnd I'd rather not have some delusional person representing my country. The last one's delusions caused the lives of countless thousands to be lost. Its 2008, isn't it time we stopped with the fairy tales and leave our invisible friends out of real life affairs?
I would tend to not vote for
Submitted on April 28th, 2008 by wishnevskyI would tend to not vote for a person who expresses strong public religious affiliations or mouths religious platitudes. What was it Jesus said about no praying as the Pharisee's do?
The religious con is the easiest con there is. Quiet reflective religious beliefs and acting on those beliefs silently is one of the hardest of virtues.
What is and what isn't
Submitted on April 27th, 2008 by PabloWhen people say they are for religious values it more or less means a choice for moral values in the traditional sense.
Does Religious views play more of a roll than people think?
Absolutely! Religious views by the full spectrum of the US society has made it clear that this is the case especially now and in this election. From Rev Wright to views on Mormanism are being played out along with hatred and under the radar racism.
People are looking at these items more closely this election than every before. So when people say its not a factor, they are not telling the truth.
Two main points will show that I am speaking true.
The FLDS which is nothing more than the right wing more conservative branch of the main stream Mormans its no wonder people are skeptical. Its one of those issues that has been playing out over the last 12 months.
The only difference between main stream mormanism and the FLDS is on two issues. Plurality of wives and wife selection.
Both use the same religious books and the same doctrine. The difference is what was done to gain state status for Utah but the truth is that some 40% of mormans who are in the LDS are in fact followers of FLDS. In other words, they have more than one wife and do bride selection as they call it or follow a discustingly arranged marriage pact to link certain families together in the same manner as the old royalty lines of Europe.
Then you have those who look at Rev Wright. Although he has done many good works in his community, he simply destroyed those good works with his anti american and racist positions.
The status of Black America is what they make it to be. Black America can either choose to continue racism as its strangle hold or rise above it.
What most people seem to miss is that racism is a two way street. There are just as many or from what I have seen personally by percentage more black racists than white ones.
Racism spawns more racism. Hatred spawns more hatred. Just look at the most best world example of pure racism and pure hatred. Shiite verses Sunni. In this example, its pure racism and pure hatred that are rooted in the two positions. It goes extremely beyond who is the successor to Muhammad.
Its a pure cycle of hatred and racism that you see being played out with each killing and bombing.
Thus its time that all people in america move on. Take the high road and say, I will not make choices based on color or skin but who will do what is best for my family, community and country.
That may look racially inbalanced but the truth is that we live in a racially imbalanced society. There are more whites than Black and there is more Hispanics than Blacks in America today. Thus its not racism when a company has 2 black people out of 50.
Sometimes its other factors. Level of education, experience, simply who applied for the job.
I run 3 businesses. I have currently zero blacks working for me. Am I a racist? No. Just that no blacks have applied for the jobs I had when those jobs were posted at the local emplyment agency and newspapers.
Do I have a diverse racial make up. Yes. of the current 53 employees, 36 are Hispanic. 3 are Native American, 1 Asian and the rest are white.
Why do I not have more whites? For the same reason why I do not have one single Black. They did not show up to apply for the job or they just were not qualified for the job they applied for.
I can not hire a person who is not qualified that may injure or kill another employee because he does not have the education or certifications to do the job.
Have I been reviewed for selective hiring. Yes. 4 years ago and I was given a clean bill of health by both the local NAACP and the government concerning my hiring practice.
But the truth is that we all have a standard that was rooted in religous values and in our life experiences.
We all have seen racism either being played out before us or at us.
But the truth is we all are voting based on our perspective of religon.
** religions spew anti-values **
Submitted on April 27th, 2008 by Anonymouswhat religious values? begging the question aren't you?
there are religious anti-values: ignorance, arrogance, conformism, resentment, hatred, and if possible, violence. especially within xianity and islam, but also in judaism and zoroastrianism. each a religion founded on desires for revenge.
you really buy into the sophism that morality must have a religious foundation. what ignorance! historically wrong; philosophically wrong!
bipolar2
Hillary's Loyalty
Submitted on April 27th, 2008 by AnonymousDon't get me wrong, I'm a Hillary supporter, but I really don't think it's loyalty that keeps her together with Bill.
She's still in this relationship with Bill, in my opinion, because she benefits from it still, financially and politically.
But this is rather off topic.
Hillary for President
Submitted on April 27th, 2008 by AnonymousReligion or Race should not be a part of Politics. Your Higher Power is your own business. Bills morals were is own business. I admire a women who stands by her husband through thick or thin.
Love for a husband and wife is something to be admired.
Any man who is offered a blow job is going to take it, now be honest.
That was a set up operation anyway, he was baited abd bit, shame on him. But there should be no shame on Hillary for standing by him. As for president, she shows she can be loyal,admitt mistakes.
Who cares where they got thier mony as long as it was legal. That should not be anyones business. Would like to tell the world how much money you make, and how you make it???? I wOuld like to say more, but running out of space. GO HILLARY