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The definition of a theory has some weaknesses in evolutionary theory. "repeatedly tested" how can we test now something that has happened in the past. Cataclysmic events cannot be repeatedly tested. "widely accepted" popular does not mean it is correct nor incorrect.

I have no objection to a person accepting whatever origins theories (worldview)they want. However, I strongly object to discrimination and disrespect when a person accepts a worldview that may differ from the "widely accepted".

Suggesting a candidate is insane, unfit, etc. because of their belief in God or disbelief runs contrary to the freedom we enjoy under the Constitution....see Subject line

This social trait of Free Thinking is a dinosaur. Thinking outside of 'govment' education?

To question an academic-politician about ones origin was crime against humanity to some empires.

Theory is just that. Unproven. Education is the process of learning how to learn. It is not 'this is all you need to know'. Mostly based on self dicipline applied to learning to detect half-truths vs half-lies.

Evolution is a theory. No empirical data. The theory has stretched the band that connects the dots so tight that the band is transparent.

The man who founded evolution was more interested in disproving the Christain God versus his God 'Mother Earth'. His followers number in the millions today.

Free Thinking is healthy. All people that contribute to any society must have a value system that incorporates several tenants of conduct. One is the belief that you the person is held in purpose by some higher structure. To some this structure may be 'mother earth' or a god that defines his image inside 'faith'.

Today there is only 2 possibilities to consider in human origin. Both within 'intelligent' design rhetoric.

Let the religious debate begin!

Geez, I have never seen so much heated debate based on a lot of bunk and trash.

The truth about religion.

Some people claim to have religion but in reality have none.

Others claim to have no religion yet are very religious.

Some people claim that if you talk to God that makes you crazy because they who call you crazy can not hear God.

Those that hear God think that those who can not hear God are either crazy or on the road to Hell and will burn burn burn.

Then there are those who believe that God only talks to those of the right religion and the rest are either liars, crazy or will burn burn burn.

Others think that if a person believes in God, that it makes them crazy and from this craziness they start wars.

The above was a short list of the debate that is raging here and I took them from the positions being played out!

Its sheer loonacy!

The truth is that no one is right and also no one is wrong.

Just as there is no perfect person in the world today or can be found anywhere. There will be no perfect president. Never mind about the failings of the traits of the people who pick politics as a career. Generally a polician is deficient in all areas because they want to be a politician!

The truth is that the best candidate for president is:

1. Believes in God and is in an acceptable religion.
By acceptable means a religion which has proper morals, human rights, equality and other good things. Does not believe in Murdering anyone who does not believe what they believe or the other things down that road. It Is by the religion named by the candidate that we know what the moral standards are for that individual and/or should expect for that individual to display during the presidentcy. Person that may claim religion but rarely goes to church and does highly questionable things would show lack of morals as to what is the moral standard. (In the US, Its the Christian Moral Standard. But in a few more years, Paganism may be the moral standard which is no standard at all.)

2. Is honest! No lies found in them.
This should be obvious. If a person can not tell the truth and is known as a Liar, then how can anyone know when the country is at an incredible crisis requiring massive sacrifice that they are speaking true or just telling another lie to bring about some action that they want rather than what is good and proper for the whole country.
Ex: Hoovers recovery program and denial of a massive resession indicators which caused America to sink into the great Depression faster and deeper than it should have.

3. Proper character by having honorable people around them. This is important because whom you associate with is by your own choice. You can not pick relatives but you choose your friends and business partners. Its though these people that shows the true character which is the real you.

4. Shows proper life choices.
This is obvious for oh so many reasons.
In other words, if the person has been irresponsible in something then its obvious that they will be even more irresponsible as president because of the power and position they will have. Thus a presidentcy of horrors will unfold as the these things play out because of poor, bad, or plain dumb, ignorance or arrogant choices made.

5. Honors and respects the nation. If A person can not respect the Flag, National anthem, Military and the people who are the heart of the nation, then they should never be allowed to serve in any position or office of the country! To have them in any office, is disrepect, embarrassment and dishonorable of the people of the nation.
Example: A candidate can not act like a King or queen in the middle ages and not respect the subjects they serve. Its called service not the other way around. When Kings and queens do not serve the people, then they get their heads lopped off or hung or shot or run though as history has shown. So Like Obama saying that the people are bitter and clinging to guns and religion, then He has taken the position like a Royal who can expect the people to come and seize them for execution. Like "They have no bread do they. Then, let them eat cake." Marie Antoinette was beheaded some 3 weeks after supposedly quoting this line in 1793.

Its these things that are important. Not some veiled argument where half truths and half wrongs are thrown around.

clinton will keep our values while obama will have them removed especially since he doesnt believe in our god the first thing he will do if he gets in office is ban the pledge of allegiance from all schools and public functions he is muslim

It sounds like you need to pick up a book again. If you're questioning evolution, you have not been paying attention to science since you were 5.

the presedent should be either clinton or barack

To quote Rev Wright "I spent 6 years in the Marines and 50 years in Chains!"

What BS, he was born with a silver spoon even his parents were not tied to slavery.

Read his bio on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wr... he is a fraud and a stupid man that needs the spotlight.

When I was an adolescent and unwise, I believed in everything, including religion and God. Now I am grown up and little wiser to understand the reality, which is, there is NO GOD. It is our falacy and sheer ignorance that we believe whatever others tell us. Go back in history of human civilization and try to learn what Buddha once said, "There is no God, and if you believe in something like that, that is your own personal business, no one has right to change your belief (faith)." Buddha means enlighetened man "not God," and preached about how to be a compassionate individual, caring for this life, and not to be concerned about the life hereafter, which one elude to be heaven to oneself and hell for others. Quality of life matters - be above the political sound bites.

Anonymous in A person's religion should wrote, "A person's religion should have no bearing on whether they are voted into office or not." That wasn't the question being asked. Should we use our moral code in picking for whom we vote for in an election was the question.

Cordially,

DeanSMS

Which "religious values" does the question refer to? Love your neighbor as yourself? Judge not lest you be judged? "Do no harm? Thou shalt not kill?

The question conflates "religion" with "values". One can have a moral value system without belonging to a religion. You can love your neighbor, or at least try real hard. You can practice empathy and try to walk in someone else's shoes. And you can be opposed to the murder of our sons and daughters in an immoral war.

I am so thankful and relieved to find there are more people that still have the true American spirit and that is a true belief in God and Country. You are right all children in America are the product of a non-beleiving society who give lip service to God without adhering to his words. As all of us can thank ourselves for the state America is in. We are so far gone as a nation of non-believers that we can't stand to hear critisism and look inward to see our faults. We are all gone to hell in a hand basket on a sliding board because we are so narcisistic that we think that because we are American we don't make mistakes and anyone that has the audacity to bring forth our mistakes we ostrisize. But again We must see that " God will not be mocked " and we will never escape his wrath. You should not look to the messenger but the message. If not history will repeat itself.

This message is in reply to most of the ones I read on 4/28/08--

As I read the thoughts and rhetoric of many, I realize that it's common to judge others for their opinions which differ from theirs (or the one). Then another talks about the "progression of science, the less room for 'your god.'" Let me quote a famous author, "Oh you of little (or no) faith." Science can do all the searching it wants to disprove the existence of God; the belief in Our God comes from inside--knowing that we are loved, wanted, and appreciated--God said that He knows the very marrow of us all, and still loves us. There is a place in believing in God and the goodness of man for our eco-system, is is called love. If society loved our planet as much as they loved themselves there would be no worry or concern about our planet--but, instead the love of money is far greater than love. I know that this four-letter word (love) is easily spewed from our mouths on a daily basis and that this love rarely lasts (often); but by loving you do right by God and Jesus, people, and this planet. The "status of Black America is what they make it to be," well this is another biased opinion for the books. Black America does not choose the strangle-hold of racism; as you your self said, "We live in a racially unbalanced society." Not because Black Americans chose to, because society chose this as a way of separation. Lastly, I vote--not based on religion--based on my belief of who is the best person for the job.

This country might have been founded on religion but as an African American our forefathers were slaves under the religion that many whites used to oppress black peoples. We know like other groups of people that hate is debilitating. Rev. Wright would not be such a huge issue if the media did not give him media coverage. Stop the coverage and see how powerful he is. As much as I love black preaching, and loved his speech at the NAACP, his statements since that time has truly saddened and embarrassed me. One CNN commentator, whose comments I had a great deal of admiration for and who used to give pretty balanced and unbiased comments, said Obama needs to show some anger, anger, anger at Rev. Wright. Wow! that would be just what the doctor ordered - anger, division, hate. Why must blood be drawn to prove that people are serious about their opinions. Do we really have to torment, and torture people to prove a point. This would really have license to say Obama is just another angry black man. I was taken aback to here this advice from the media. These remarks instigate the same hate you protest. The media continues to talk about black and white, race, and how many blacks are doing this and how many whites are doing that---why! Why do you continuously make distinctions all day, all night long. I think you are making it a race issue by continuing to bring up these separations. Hillary Clinton had a part in lighting the fire to all of this bickering. She lit the fire and is watching it burn. The media is so easily manipulated. I thought you were smarter. Some people specialize in throwing rocks and hiding their hands. If you notice when the Rev Wright/Obama media blitz is out Hillary is quiet. Think she's enjoying this? I think the Republicans want Hillary to win as a strategy because they know they will win against her. I think the republicans want Hillary to win because many of them are used to whites running the country and are afraid, downright scared of another culture running the country. Fear is a very powerful emotion. Fear is what fueled Hitler,the Klu Klux Klan,the Skin Heads, etc. The fear of whites and the wrong they've done to others, from a systemic perspective, is the reason whites themselves are so fearful. I see fear in whites. Fear usually comes before hate. Blacks and whites have race issues we need to work on. Neither race is clear or better when it comes to race - one for being involved with racism from a perpetrators perspective and the other for being involved with racism from a victims perspective. We all need therapy when it comes to racism. The world is watching and I'm sad that they have to see once again, since the civil rights movement, how utterly immature, selfish, and mean we are around race - God gave none of us a prescription for who we wanted to be. None of us asked to be the race we are but all of us can control our character and this is disgraceful - yet again. Young people are so far ahead of this. It is the older generation who continues to carry the dissention. No wonder our children call us hypocrits.Our children don't like it people - they are watching.
OBAMA -- PLEASE BE STEADFAST, STAY THE COURSE, AND LET NO ONE SEPARATE YOU FROM THE GOAL OF WORKING WITH US THE PEOPLE - BLACK & WHITE TO HELP MAKE THIS UNITED STATES A MODEL OF HUMANITY!

I don't have a religion. I don't vote.

Oh yeah, and I'm Canadian. Your president always sucks, so have fun this time around! (Suckers)

yeah you seem pretty hostile toward all religion there has to be some underlying reason for that. you choose to see the bad rather than the good. I don't care about what the media reports on, I care about statistics...look up the facts mr.brain

A person's religion should have no bearing on whether they are voted into office or not. Although, should they have no religion, I would be more inclined to vote.

Many would have me believe that you have to be religious to have a conscience. But I know different. I know that almost every genocide ever committed was carried out in the name of religion.

The more science progresses, the less room there is for your god. We may never completely disprove it, but we may never completely disprove the tea pot orbiting the sun.

No matter how you analyze it, religion has been benifical to society. It brings groups of people together for a like cause and sets guidelines for conduct. I think most sane people can agree that the ten commandments are appropriate guidlines for the behavior of humans in society. The only problem I see is that there should have been ten ecological commandments to dictate how we treat the environment. Radical religious conflicts have plagued mankind for thousands of years and could be our downfall, but if everyone on the planet lived by the ten commandments this world would be a more beutiful place. If only there was a place in religion for the treatment of this planet. -edog

Was congress talking to god also when they made the choice to support the war in iraq...I didn't think so. And by the way if religion had not been invented we would have no moral code by which to operate and we would live in a society where anything goes. what would that look like?

Nonsense? A logical fallacy to expect insane actions from an insane person? We have a president that thinks God talks to him, who has no respect for "reality" and is moved by inexplicable emotion.

This is proving to work out well in what manner?

The Constitution does not requite one to have a religion, or to be free from religion, but then it does not require a citizen to be literate, or sane, or non-delusional, or even rational.

Some small-souled people prefer these qualities in their leaders, however.

I'd rather believe in a delusion and be wrong....than not believe in the delusion and be wrong...but then what the Hel....

I would tend to not vote for a person who expresses strong public religious affiliations or mouths religious platitudes. What was it Jesus said about no praying as the Pharisee's do?

The religious con is the easiest con there is. Quiet reflective religious beliefs and acting on those beliefs silently is one of the hardest of virtues.

what religious values? begging the question aren't you?

there are religious anti-values: ignorance, arrogance, conformism, resentment, hatred, and if possible, violence. especially within xianity and islam, but also in judaism and zoroastrianism. each a religion founded on desires for revenge.

you really buy into the sophism that morality must have a religious foundation. what ignorance! historically wrong; philosophically wrong!

bipolar2

Religion or Race should not be a part of Politics. Your Higher Power is your own business. Bills morals were is own business. I admire a women who stands by her husband through thick or thin.
Love for a husband and wife is something to be admired.
Any man who is offered a blow job is going to take it, now be honest.
That was a set up operation anyway, he was baited abd bit, shame on him. But there should be no shame on Hillary for standing by him. As for president, she shows she can be loyal,admitt mistakes.
Who cares where they got thier mony as long as it was legal. That should not be anyones business. Would like to tell the world how much money you make, and how you make it???? I wOuld like to say more, but running out of space. GO HILLARY