In my spiritual quest, I've 'been' several religions. I'm pretty well satisfied that where I am now is the right path ... not just for me (it's not an 'easy walk') but the right path, period.
However, if I found another that I felt came closer, I'd change again. My goal in being a Christian at all is to serve my God through obedience to his Son. When I see a better way to that goal, I'll take it. So far, I've been here 10 years and am even more convinced of the worth of this choice today than I was on the day I asked to be baptized.
Amazing things happen when you actually study the Bible. And they are all good. (2 Ti 3:16,17)
Collective leading
self conviction
limiting options and answers
pushing those around you to a predetermined conclusion.
If God were not real i would fear you.
"but we are just asking questions"
how the earth wishes that were true
I changed from Roman Catholic ( not really practicing) to non-denominational Christianity. As a Latino is was not a very popular decision amongst my family members, but I just never felt anything in Catholicism for some reason. It seemed over ritualistic for me, the kneeling at certain times, then standing, then kneeling again, then going to receive the Eucharist etc , I felt that all this was not necessary and it didn't please God for me to do these things.
I felt a change in my behavior/ morals etc after converting to Christianity, probably because I am taking it more seriously, but also because I feel Christianity has made me more conscious of God. Christianity stresses a relationship with Jesus Christ, where one actively through prayer is "Born Again" more than any ritual which I am sure is not really important to God.
I didn't. Millions of Americans grew up without religion. I find it interesting that the author of this question had not even considered this as a viable possibility.
As to religion being the root of all evil, or a reason to go to war, it is neither. It is at worst an opiate of the people, used by those in power to justify the unjustifiable.
I'll get to the point. Stating that most problems that have started since the beginning of time are the result of religious differences is incredibly narrow in focus. You're welcome to make that claim, however, if you back it up.
(For the record, stating that "The Muslims and the Christians kill each other" doesn't prove or even support your argument unless you can show that the violence between these groups started because of religion. And don't go invoking the Crusades or your point will be lost.)
I think that in the absence of religion, people would still find plenty of things to fight about. The vast majority of fighting would continue on just as strong. The following isn't quantified, and thus it proves nothing, but keep in mind that, yes, people do fight over religion (and thus religion essentially causes such fights), but there are ALSO other quarrels that are smoothed out because one or more parties feel their God(s) are telling them that fighting isn't the correct means for solving this dispute. The Bible over and over again convicts people not to quarrel within the religion itself, and gives the command to treat others outside the faith in such a way that they will have no reason to have any problem with you.
People will lie, steal, abuse, murder, and hate--that is a reality we all are forced to live with. That is the human condition. Religion is an attempt at an answer for why we are forced to live in such a dark, cruel world. Religion is not the cause. Religion does not make this world darker. In this culture today, frankly, religion is a scape goat. Even Trey Parker and Matt Stone of South Park can see that to a point (see the two-part episode titled "Go God, Go" during season 10.)
To tell the truth, everyone who did wrong in the name of religion didn't do what they did for the sake of religion, but for the sake of themselves.
Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades happened because people in power wanted to stay in power. In fact, those who knew that the words of Christ, whom the church followed, condemned what the church did, were called heretics and either banned from the church or killed.
People who steal, murder, deny their family, rape, and merely hurt each other do not do it for their religion, but for their own pride, their own desires, their own greed.
I do agree, when religions gain power, they can become corrupt, but it is not the religion itself which does wrong, for when studied, all these religions were begun for the sake of bringing morals to the people.
The common factor which brought all these religions shame was people. All people are inherently selfish, and that is what causes all evil.
You don't need to belong to a church or a religion to have morals. Most of the problems in the world since the start of recorded time started because of diference of religion.
"Don't Kill" The Catholics kill the Protestants in Ireland. The Muslims and the Christians kill each other. The Muslims kill each other because of different Secs. I could go on all day.
"Respect your parents" This is a two way street. How many times has someone been disowned, because they married a person from another religion. I had a friend who's mother wouldn't come to his wedding because, "It wasn't in Her Church".
"Don't Steal" Unless it is land, and the other person is of another religion. Then it is OK.
"Consider your Fellow Man" Unless he is of a different Religion, because MY Religion is the only true religion.
I don't belong to a church. I hope I am teaching my children good morals. They get good grades, say please and thank you. When they are old enough, and would like too choose a religion or not. I hope they keep their good morals.
I know alot of people, as most do. I have known ones that would go too church every Sunday, then mess around on their husband or wife the rest of the week.
To see if religion really effects morals. On every arrest report, and divorve filing. There should be a box to check, are you church going person, yes or no. The End, Cornfinger
To say "No" would mean that I had a religion while growing up. To say "Yes" would mean that I practice a religion now.
I never have been part of a religion, and your wording is tricky.
...such as "I didn't have a religious upbringing and I continue to not believe in any religion, not because of tradition or faith, but because they are absurd."
Et tu, Brute; ever hear of Rome? The Romans used to sacrifice their own personal gain for the good of the nation, but later developed a consciousness of self--an "age of ME," as you'd put it. When they decided that they themselves were more important than their country as a whole, Rome's nationalistic features--the foundation of what may have been the greatest civilization to have ever existed--faltered, calling the nation to crumble, leaving fewer men willing to fight for their country, ultimately leading to Arminius' conquest of Rome.
I'm not implying that there weren't other causes of Rome's downfall; I'm only saying that there's absolutely no reason to keep some idea that will lead to the decline of America.
This is a pretty terrible analysis of religion.
It bases its choices on three common yet holistically inferences of religious situations.
What if someone kept their childhood religion because they actually believed it was the right one after careful analysis, rather than just by keeping tradition?
This is overall a pretty biased poll.
You're drop-dead right. We need to move from the morals and values the church teaches like "Don't Kill", "Respect your parents", "Don't steal", "consider your fellow man". They're doing nothing but contributing to the decay of society as a whole. It eats away at the underpinnings of our society. It washes out the foundation of our culture, leaving us on unsteady ground.
Let's change. Let's evolve. Leave those antiquated ideals behind. The new age is the age of 'ME'. I'll get what I want, when I want it. Does it affect you? Oh, sorry. Oh well! Say, do you know where I can pick up more drugs? I'm running low. My family? Ah, they're just a bunch of whiners anyway... Grow up and take care of the family, junior. Only twelve? Heck, you're almost a man, right?
The problem here is that most people do not know what the true religion is, and what it espouses. I have been endowed with deep religious wisdom which spills over into this life, through my active search for it..
I will not let you know what the true religion is, because you gotta want what it gives you. Search for it yourselves. .
I pray heartily every day that Obama, does not get the Democratic Party nod.
But a word to the wise, He is coming again, so it is best to be prepared. . .
Can we not see the signs?
Theism is overrated, so is emphasis on 'traditional christian' values. Rose tinted looks back at 'the way it was' while blaming negative aspects of today on 'moral decay' do not help to solve those problems. society and culture change, and so must attitudes. The moral rightiousness associated with the foundation of america may have asserted 'family values' but also resulted in the slaughter of millions of native americans and legitimised slavery under the same moral framework. The way forward cannot be made while trying to assert a reterospective worldview.
America continues to turn away from its moral values. The same moral values that founded America and made America a great country. Pray for Americans to return to the Religious beliefs that made this such a great country! God Bless America!
...but Mark, I think you overstate your case. Religion has been part of the human experience for the entirety of the human experience. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, sometimes it's mixed and sometimes it's neutral. But we've somehow survived as a species.
Thoughts
Raised in one, chose another
Submitted on March 8th, 2008 by AnonymousIn my spiritual quest, I've 'been' several religions. I'm pretty well satisfied that where I am now is the right path ... not just for me (it's not an 'easy walk') but the right path, period.
However, if I found another that I felt came closer, I'd change again. My goal in being a Christian at all is to serve my God through obedience to his Son. When I see a better way to that goal, I'll take it. So far, I've been here 10 years and am even more convinced of the worth of this choice today than I was on the day I asked to be baptized.
Amazing things happen when you actually study the Bible. And they are all good. (2 Ti 3:16,17)
Leading questions
Submitted on March 7th, 2008 by AnonymousCollective leading
self conviction
limiting options and answers
pushing those around you to a predetermined conclusion.
If God were not real i would fear you.
"but we are just asking questions"
how the earth wishes that were true
I changed from Roman
Submitted on March 7th, 2008 by AnonymousI changed from Roman Catholic ( not really practicing) to non-denominational Christianity. As a Latino is was not a very popular decision amongst my family members, but I just never felt anything in Catholicism for some reason. It seemed over ritualistic for me, the kneeling at certain times, then standing, then kneeling again, then going to receive the Eucharist etc , I felt that all this was not necessary and it didn't please God for me to do these things.
I felt a change in my behavior/ morals etc after converting to Christianity, probably because I am taking it more seriously, but also because I feel Christianity has made me more conscious of God. Christianity stresses a relationship with Jesus Christ, where one actively through prayer is "Born Again" more than any ritual which I am sure is not really important to God.
To Anonymous
Submitted on March 7th, 2008 by AnonymousI totally agree with you! What an excellent response!
Religion?
Submitted on March 6th, 2008 by AnonymousA hypocrite is a person who is not himself on Sunday.
Who grew up with religion?
Submitted on March 6th, 2008 by AnonymousI didn't. Millions of Americans grew up without religion. I find it interesting that the author of this question had not even considered this as a viable possibility.
As to religion being the root of all evil, or a reason to go to war, it is neither. It is at worst an opiate of the people, used by those in power to justify the unjustifiable.
ORLY?
Submitted on March 3rd, 2008 by AnonymousI'll get to the point. Stating that most problems that have started since the beginning of time are the result of religious differences is incredibly narrow in focus. You're welcome to make that claim, however, if you back it up.
(For the record, stating that "The Muslims and the Christians kill each other" doesn't prove or even support your argument unless you can show that the violence between these groups started because of religion. And don't go invoking the Crusades or your point will be lost.)
I think that in the absence of religion, people would still find plenty of things to fight about. The vast majority of fighting would continue on just as strong. The following isn't quantified, and thus it proves nothing, but keep in mind that, yes, people do fight over religion (and thus religion essentially causes such fights), but there are ALSO other quarrels that are smoothed out because one or more parties feel their God(s) are telling them that fighting isn't the correct means for solving this dispute. The Bible over and over again convicts people not to quarrel within the religion itself, and gives the command to treat others outside the faith in such a way that they will have no reason to have any problem with you.
People will lie, steal, abuse, murder, and hate--that is a reality we all are forced to live with. That is the human condition. Religion is an attempt at an answer for why we are forced to live in such a dark, cruel world. Religion is not the cause. Religion does not make this world darker. In this culture today, frankly, religion is a scape goat. Even Trey Parker and Matt Stone of South Park can see that to a point (see the two-part episode titled "Go God, Go" during season 10.)
Peace and Love,
Chuck Crouse
Self, not religion, root of all evil.
Submitted on March 3rd, 2008 by AnonymousTo tell the truth, everyone who did wrong in the name of religion didn't do what they did for the sake of religion, but for the sake of themselves.
Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades happened because people in power wanted to stay in power. In fact, those who knew that the words of Christ, whom the church followed, condemned what the church did, were called heretics and either banned from the church or killed.
People who steal, murder, deny their family, rape, and merely hurt each other do not do it for their religion, but for their own pride, their own desires, their own greed.
I do agree, when religions gain power, they can become corrupt, but it is not the religion itself which does wrong, for when studied, all these religions were begun for the sake of bringing morals to the people.
The common factor which brought all these religions shame was people. All people are inherently selfish, and that is what causes all evil.
Religion: Root of all evil
Submitted on March 2nd, 2008 by CORNFINGER66You don't need to belong to a church or a religion to have morals. Most of the problems in the world since the start of recorded time started because of diference of religion.
"Don't Kill" The Catholics kill the Protestants in Ireland. The Muslims and the Christians kill each other. The Muslims kill each other because of different Secs. I could go on all day.
"Respect your parents" This is a two way street. How many times has someone been disowned, because they married a person from another religion. I had a friend who's mother wouldn't come to his wedding because, "It wasn't in Her Church".
"Don't Steal" Unless it is land, and the other person is of another religion. Then it is OK.
"Consider your Fellow Man" Unless he is of a different Religion, because MY Religion is the only true religion.
I don't belong to a church. I hope I am teaching my children good morals. They get good grades, say please and thank you. When they are old enough, and would like too choose a religion or not. I hope they keep their good morals.
I know alot of people, as most do. I have known ones that would go too church every Sunday, then mess around on their husband or wife the rest of the week.
To see if religion really effects morals. On every arrest report, and divorve filing. There should be a box to check, are you church going person, yes or no. The End, Cornfinger
To say "No" would mean that
Submitted on March 1st, 2008 by AnonymousTo say "No" would mean that I had a religion while growing up. To say "Yes" would mean that I practice a religion now.
I never have been part of a religion, and your wording is tricky.
Yeah, no doubt. It's how
Submitted on March 1st, 2008 by AnonymousYeah, no doubt.
It's how pretty much every site is.
Oh, the cleverness of the
Submitted on February 29th, 2008 by Russell WarrickOh, the cleverness of the atheist, so droll, so pithy.
This needs more options...
Submitted on February 29th, 2008 by Mark...such as "I didn't have a religious upbringing and I continue to not believe in any religion, not because of tradition or faith, but because they are absurd."
That's the one I would pick.
Et tu, Brute; ever hear of
Submitted on February 28th, 2008 by AnonymousEt tu, Brute; ever hear of Rome? The Romans used to sacrifice their own personal gain for the good of the nation, but later developed a consciousness of self--an "age of ME," as you'd put it. When they decided that they themselves were more important than their country as a whole, Rome's nationalistic features--the foundation of what may have been the greatest civilization to have ever existed--faltered, calling the nation to crumble, leaving fewer men willing to fight for their country, ultimately leading to Arminius' conquest of Rome.
I'm not implying that there weren't other causes of Rome's downfall; I'm only saying that there's absolutely no reason to keep some idea that will lead to the decline of America.
Objectivism isn't getting you anywhere, pal.
This is a pretty terrible
Submitted on February 28th, 2008 by AnonymousThis is a pretty terrible analysis of religion.
It bases its choices on three common yet holistically inferences of religious situations.
What if someone kept their childhood religion because they actually believed it was the right one after careful analysis, rather than just by keeping tradition?
This is overall a pretty biased poll.
IQ's are for the soulless.
Submitted on February 28th, 2008 by LukeIQ's are for the soulless.
Morals: Root of all evil...
Submitted on February 28th, 2008 by JeffYou're drop-dead right. We need to move from the morals and values the church teaches like "Don't Kill", "Respect your parents", "Don't steal", "consider your fellow man". They're doing nothing but contributing to the decay of society as a whole. It eats away at the underpinnings of our society. It washes out the foundation of our culture, leaving us on unsteady ground.
Let's change. Let's evolve. Leave those antiquated ideals behind. The new age is the age of 'ME'. I'll get what I want, when I want it. Does it affect you? Oh, sorry. Oh well! Say, do you know where I can pick up more drugs? I'm running low. My family? Ah, they're just a bunch of whiners anyway... Grow up and take care of the family, junior. Only twelve? Heck, you're almost a man, right?
Feels funny even trying to type it!
the question doesnt leave much room for true answers
Submitted on February 27th, 2008 by Anonymousyeah
Religion is for the
Submitted on February 27th, 2008 by AnonymousReligion is for the brainless.
Deep religious wisdom and philosophy
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by dbassdThe problem here is that most people do not know what the true religion is, and what it espouses. I have been endowed with deep religious wisdom which spills over into this life, through my active search for it..
I will not let you know what the true religion is, because you gotta want what it gives you. Search for it yourselves. .
I pray heartily every day that Obama, does not get the Democratic Party nod.
But a word to the wise, He is coming again, so it is best to be prepared. . .
Can we not see the signs?
RELIGION
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by TimmyReligion is really not the issue. The question you must answer that is central to human existence is what am I to do with Jesus The Christ!
John in Texas
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by JoelI made the poll, and you're right: I didn't account for your type of journey. Thanks for bringing forward your perspective.
Your question is flawed
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by John in TexasYour question is flawed because it supposes that religious people were all raised religious.
I was raised to be a skeptic and once had a very hostile view of religion. I am now a member of the clergy.
None of your poll options account for a journey like mine.
But it does reveal some of the assumptions the poll's author must have about religious experience and how and when it is transmitted.
Theism is overrated, so is
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by AnonymousTheism is overrated, so is emphasis on 'traditional christian' values. Rose tinted looks back at 'the way it was' while blaming negative aspects of today on 'moral decay' do not help to solve those problems. society and culture change, and so must attitudes. The moral rightiousness associated with the foundation of america may have asserted 'family values' but also resulted in the slaughter of millions of native americans and legitimised slavery under the same moral framework. The way forward cannot be made while trying to assert a reterospective worldview.
American christians are..
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by AnonymousLOL
America continues to turn
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by AnonymousAmerica continues to turn away from its moral values. The same moral values that founded America and made America a great country. Pray for Americans to return to the Religious beliefs that made this such a great country! God Bless America!
Thank God, about time.
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by AnonymousThank God, about time.
wow, so witty.
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by Anonymouswow, so witty, yet so inane.
I'm no fan of certain types of religious expression...
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by Joel...but Mark, I think you overstate your case. Religion has been part of the human experience for the entirety of the human experience. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, sometimes it's mixed and sometimes it's neutral. But we've somehow survived as a species.
Religion
Submitted on February 26th, 2008 by MarkLets just hope that this trend continues. If we don't rid the world of religion, religion will rid the world of us.