Obama Really is not by Law able to be President!
Posted 7 weeks 6 days ago byAlthough I watched the debate. I saw nothing inspiring from either candidate. I saw Obama lack luster on the economy and could not even list important parts of his wide plan that could conflict with the Bailout. Which means that Obama is talking about lofty ideals and not about specifics.
McCain did no better. On real foreign Affairs, McCain did better but slightly and could have buried Obama but he dropped the ball. Simply put, based on the information in 2002 -2003 no matter how bad that information was or incorrect that information was, it led to a correct judgement to invade Iraq to the protection of the US when Saddom threatened to use and give his WMD to Terrorists.
That is what led to the US pulling the trigger and why that trigger was more of a hair trigger so soon after 9/11. But McCain dropped the ball and could have made the statement based on the information at the time was the right choice then argue later about how to prevent bad intelligence through proper leadership!
Then I came across an email which came early this morning. It was about Obama and his lawsuit about him not qualified to be president.
What Amazed me about the e-mail was that it contained a statement from Obama and his campaign.
The statement is:
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
As you can see, this is major news! Obama does not meet the basic requirements of POTUS! He can not and should not be president!
Obama finally admits that he had dual Kenyan Citizenship with the USA through the Birtish mandate of Kenya in 1948. Under Article II, that precludes Obama from having the right to the presidency because of dual loyalties and how this is applied under the Blackstone comments and how a few Supreme court rulings have fallen about this topic. It also now opens up a whole new batch of regs under the Immigration and naturalization Acts.
Specifically:
Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. citizens are subject to loss of citizenship if they perform certain specified acts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Briefly stated, these acts include:
1. obtaining naturalization in a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA); 2. taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration to a foreign state or its political subdivisions (Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA); 3. entering or serving in the armed forces of a foreign state engaged in hostilities against the U.S. or serving as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer in the armed forces of a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (3) INA); 4. accepting employment with a foreign government if (a) one has the nationality of that foreign state or (b) an oath or declaration of allegiance is required in accepting the position (Sec. 349 (a) (4) INA); 5. formally renouncing U.S. citizenship before a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer outside the United States (sec. 349 (a) (5) INA); 6. formally renouncing U.S. citizenship within the U.S. (but only under strict, narrow statutory conditions) (Sec. 349 (a) (6) INA); 7. conviction for an act of treason (Sec. 349 (a) (7) INA).
Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship. The loss of the citizenship by children are subject through renaturalization through applying with the proper US consolars office and providing evidence of having a right to US citizenship and taking the Oath of US citizenship upon their 18th birthday. Failure to excercise this action could lead to deportation if the person refuses to surrender the citizenship of the other country.
Intent can be shown by the person’s statements or conduct. The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause.
Obama was adopted in Indonesia! Court papers from Indonesia list Obama as Barry Soeroto as a citizen of Indonesia by his own Mother. Thus Obama lost his US citizenship through Adoption.
Obama came to live with his US grandparents after the death of his mother. However, Obama was required by US law under Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481) upon his 18th birthday to naturalize back into the US to properly regain his citizenship. Even if Obama did all the right things, he would be a naturalized citizen not a natural or native born under the law!
Secondly, under Article II Obama has not dual citizenship issues but Tricitizenship issues which fall under dual loyalties definition which by law, precludes Obama from being president because Obama early life which he had no control prevents him from achieving POTUS basic standard. Just as other citizens of the US like the well known California Gov. A Schwarzenegger who had no control over his childhood had to request to be a US citizen when he came to the US to get naturalized because he held a citizenship from another country. It does not matter under the INS laws if you were born in the US or not if you surrendered the US citizenship. Although it does not prevent you from being a US citizen, it changes the status of your citizenship from that of native born to naturalization.
Obama should be removed from the presidential race immediately! Then he should be thrown into Jail for all the felonies he has committed over the years.













Thoughts
impeachment
Submitted on November 4th, 2008 by Anonymousok so now that these young dumb asses have voted him in office how do we file papers to impeach him or have him jailed for his b.s. i am not kiding we need to stop this!!!!
Grains
Submitted on September 28th, 2008 by PabloIf you have paid any attention to the papers filed in Federal Court, you will find two of interest.
Obama admitted in his answer that he had Dual Kenyan Citizenship.
He said nothing about the Indonesian one.
But there is the copy of the Divorse decree from Indonesia which lists Barry Soeroto as an Indonesian citizen which was filed with the Federal Court to Challenge Obama's POTUS.
That has legs!
crazy
Submitted on September 28th, 2008 by Grains of SaltYou and this brilliant lawyer seem to be the only ones who really believe there is a case here. Can you show me where Anything his mother does while he's a minor is considered "vonluntary"? I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but i haven't seen it yet. You seem to have seen that somewhere to be so sure.
So, why again, is it that you keep blogging about it? Why are you and this lawyer the only ones who care? Don't you think the current admin could have found all this out by now? We track terror cells around the globe but can't tell is he can be president? It has no legs, no one believes it, or you. You look very,very silly today.
Grains
Submitted on September 28th, 2008 by PabloYour an idiot and you proved it one more time.
You should learn to read an understand then walk and chew gum so that you do not look so blind and stupid.
Obama's Adoption is considered voluntary you moron because as a minor, his mother had the authority to remove his citizenship! That is true no matter how you want it to be something else.
It does not prevent from obtaining US citizenship back after a person turns 18 providing that they are born on US soil and conform to native born statutes. He simply has to request it back by following the rules set by law!
What is does however, is it places this person as a nationalization process verses native born under the INS regs. This is because they have to apply for their citizenship and must take the oath! Native born status does not have to request citizenship nor has to take the oath.
That is the difference you moron! Under Article II and accordance with Supreme Court rulings on this matter, dual loyalties are forbidden for the President and Vice president anyway.
His kenyan and Indonesian citizenships prevent him from being president under law!
The truth is that Obama is not even a US citizen right now because he failed to apply for his citizenship which he has a right to and has not taken the oath as required by law.
Its really that simple! Sheesh get a life Grains.
Your whinning and fawning over Obama is pathetic.
Sorry
Submitted on September 27th, 2008 by Grains of Saltbut I just gotta coment Pabs.
After being born in the US - Adoption or ANYTHING that his mother did is not considered "voluntary" or "Intentional". It is not. He can not lose his citizenship that way. Adoption would be considered invouluntary. I don't see in the law where it says anything different.
Zero traction. Pablo, why would McCain fight like hell if you're so right? You make it sound "slam dunk". What's the hold-up? Why are the only people talking about this ObamaNOT bloggers? Because you got nothin'. That lawer is wasting his time and so are we talking about it. You don't think McCains camp knows about this? Of course they do. They just are not stupid enough to fall for it. They probably also know the law a bit better then what you think is the end all, be all Black and white truth from the laws you site. Not gonna happen. Not sure why you keep posting about it. I know your NoBamabot but you've got no traction with this one.
Anon
Submitted on September 27th, 2008 by PabloI guess you need glasses and you need reading comprehension and you need someone to help you walk and chew gum also!
Barrack Obama and His Campaign admitted that he Barrack Obama the one running for President of the US had dual citizenship with Kenya through the British colonial mandate through his father!
Obama claims that he did not access for perniment citizenship with either the UK or Kenya which had to happen in 1982.
But its unimportant in the scope of Article II of the constitution because dual loyalties prevent a person from being president. It does not matter wether Obama had a say in it or not!
Its a function of his birth and how that is defined under US law.
But then you still have another problem, Obama was adopted in Indonesia! In the divorse papers Obama's mother filed in Indonesia listed Barry Soeroto as an Indonesian citizen! Barry Soeroto is Barrack Obama III then one running for president of the US.
Thus Obama never repatriotized as required by US law! He is technically not a US citizen! He can get his citizenship back by going before a US consolate officer and applying for it and taking the Oath!
Obama never did that! Thus Obama cannot be President. Thus you still have a problem because Obama when his mother married Soeroto, He adopted her child.
Once again it does not matter if Obama had a say in it or not! Its a function of his birth and a function of what his mother did while he was a minor.
Thus he lost his US citizenship. He can get that back but in getting it back under the INS rules he is naturalized and cannot be President or Vice President of the US.
Its really that simple. Obama has a problem in that he has a document in Indonesia that says he is a citizen of that country!
That alone is enough. The Kenyan dual citizenship is just icing on a rather larger cake that prevents Obama from being president! Both cases prevent but the Indonesian issue is the stronger and more damaging one.
are you stupid?
Submitted on September 27th, 2008 by AnonymousSorry to sound so strident but really? Obama's FATHER had the dual citizenship. Barack Obama, the one running for President, was born in Hawaii. By DEFINITION that means he is a United States citizen.
Did you even take high school level civics and government?
Your post, typical of right-wing ignorance, is as infuriating as it is breathtakingly stupid.
John
Submitted on September 27th, 2008 by PabloYou know how many Obamabots called me a liar when I told the truth about what was the core of the morgage meltdown.
I called it dead on straight. I got my education from Paul Madison. A man I truly wish was on the ticket because his solution is a simply one and one that would end this problem for good!
Simply make it impossible for banks to own the property which they control the note on and allow borrowers the right to get out of variable rate morgages into a more conventional note.
Those two things would forever eliminate the problem for good. Because it prevents lenders from acting in a preditory way. It also means that if a person does default on the loan that the property is sold at fire sale prices. Which also means that banks would have to be more accountable as to who they give a loan to because they would then really stand to lose money.
It would not prevent loans it would just make it the way it was suposed to be. When you have lenders who can not act in a preditory manner that means that their goal is limited in the number of loans they give out. It actually would go back to the days of the 1950s which was and still is the greatest housing boom for middle class America.
Because the Lenders would have protections and borrowers would have access to credit.
But back to Obama, He just can not be president with the facts that are coming out. I just do not understand why the Justice department has not called Obama's campaign a sham when its obvious that he is an illegal candidate.
You could be right
Submitted on September 27th, 2008 by John 2000but I don't see it coming to pass ... for all the same reasons that so much on Obama does not break into the light. But, I do agree it is interesting.
I think that the information expressed in this video if hammered home hard over the next few weeks could gain some real traction.
Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH-...
I have also heard rumors that the $700 bn bailout that the same rancid dems where ready to pass on (before McCain rode into to town) was set to include a 20% benefit to ACORN which is very closely associated with you know who and has had severe management problems and scandals of its own.