And Denial is a River in Egypt
Posted 10 weeks 5 days ago byScientific American
News - June 23, 2008Ice Core Reveals How Quickly Climate Can ChangeWeather patterns can permanently shift in as little as a year, according to the records preserved in an ice core from Greenland
By David Biello
Roughly 14,700 years ago the weather patterns that bring snow to Greenland shifted from one year to the next—a pattern of abrupt change that was repeated 12,900 years ago and 11,700 years ago when the earth’s climate became the one enjoyed today—according to records preserved in an ice core taken from the northern island. These speedy changes—transitions from warming to cooling and back again—in the absence of changes in greenhouse gas could presage abrupt, catastrophic climate change in our future.
"What made these abrupt climate changes were circulation changes, and these changes took place from one year to the next more or less," says glaciologist Sune Olander Rasmussen of the Centre for Ice and Climate at the University of Copenhagen, who was part of a team that analyzed annual data from ice tubes extracted from as deep as 10,000 feet (3,085 meters) beneath the ice sheet, which were collected by the North Greenland Ice Core Project, a drilling expedition.
The researchers looked at three variables in the core: the amount of dust, the kind of hydrogen and the kind of oxygen in the ice. The amount of dust from year to year reveals that less of the grit traveled all the way to Greenland from the deserts of Asia (where the dust that settles over Greenland originates) around the time these transitions began, the team reports in Science.
"If things are starting to change in the dust first then we are looking for a [climate change] trigger somewhere outside of Greenland," Rasmussen says. "That could be monsoon changes," since different rainfall patterns in Asia would affect dust levels in the atmosphere.
Roughly five years after this change in dust levels, the levels of heavy hydrogen ensconced in the ice indicate that weather patterns were shifting and driving precipitation over Greenland that had originated in evaporated water from a different area of the ocean than had previously been the source of the island’s rain. And this change happened in as little as a year. "During the glacial period, abrupt warmings show change of the atmospheric circulation from year to year," says glaciologist Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, also of the University of Copenhagen, who participated in the study as well.
Following this abrupt shift, as much as 20 degrees Fahrenheit (10 degrees Celsius) of warming occurred over the subsequent decades—a change that ultimately resulted in at least 33 feet (10 meters) of sea-level rise as the ice melted on Greenland.














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If is a big word
Submitted on June 24th, 2008 by rom12921Thank you for the clarification. I love multiple choice
"...if a warming tipping point is reached,
A. via man made pollution
B. natural fluctuation
C. Act of a God Who Hates you as you so Richly Deserve,
D. aliens from the planet Ploor,
My answer B. Because there is no proof of A, article supports B, refutes A. C is improbable as I don't know a God like that. D is unlikely do to lack of evidence.
"IF there was the tiniest chance of that happening, it would be my moral duty to point that chance out, to the best of my limited access to the media. " Thanks for the warning
"I am one old fat guy..." I like this paragraph when you sound like a regular guy. Comes off very genuine and likable. May help to incorporate into other things you write.
My eyes are wide awake
Submitted on June 23rd, 2008 by koolmom21We live on a living earth ever changing and hopefully ever turning. I am 50 years old and when I was young global cooling was the threat.
I do my part to respect our planet but I do not believe the radicals. They want us to be so scared that we give them the rest of our money that they have not taken yet.
I live in a town where all our homes were built energy efficient. The measures included high amounts of insulation, energy-efficient windows, low-flow showerheads, water-conserving toilets, and efficient heating and cooling systems.
Always pictured you as ...
Submitted on June 23rd, 2008 by John 2000more the wiry type.
I don't know exactly where 'Act of a God Who Hates you as you so Richly Deserve, or aliens from the planet Ploor' comes from, so between 1) and 2) I pick 2) by a very wide margin, based upon my research and reading of the matter. I suppose 1) is always a possibility, but to me a very tiny one. Heck, the world could flip over tonight.
So, if do I think that worldwide hysteria is warranted upon what I regard as an extremely remote possibility, then the answer is no. I do think that alternative energy solutions are warranted and can be phased. I think there is a lot of buy-in to this even by (maybe especially by) the energy companies, and it is good they feel the pressure.
We, as a planet, have to be sure not to create larger problems via helter skelter 'solutions' in the endeavors undertaken.
To surmise that glaciers in Greenland melting would cause a 33 foot rise in water levels is, I believe, totally false information.
The point is, that if a
Submitted on June 23rd, 2008 by wishnevskyThe point is, that if a warming tipping point is reached, via man made pollution, natural fluctuation, Act of a God Who Hates you as you so Richly Deserve, or aliens from the planet Ploor, It could happen real fast. In a decade, the article said.
You decide which of the four causes above is the most likely and act accordingly.
If there was the tiniest chance of that happening, it would be my moral duty to point that chance out, to the best of my limited access to the media.
Not, as the Fossil Fuel companies have done, to attack the messenger trying to keep the old quarterly dividend up.
I am one old fat guy, but i drive a used econo-truck, am working on an electric, use as much locally harvested and salvaged wood in my business as possible, plant trees, and am trying to get my cheesy little acre to turn back into a forest as fast as the city will let me.
Economically, GW does not mean crap to me. I live a long way from the ocean, and will die before things get too bad. However, my personal morality and personal knowledge of science tells me GW is as real as cancer. So therefore...
For more information
Submitted on June 23rd, 2008 by John 2000on the topic of Paleoclimatology, an excellent starting point is :
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/P...
Note: I am not clear on the reason for the clever title name for this post. I was going to post comment as 'Up de Nile without a paddle', but thought better of it.
Carbon footprint 12000 BCE
Submitted on June 23rd, 2008 by rom12921what's your point?