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This is too good to stand and watch. I gotta go, but will be back to River Rant......

-The supporters no more reflect the probable presumptive nominee than the antagonists? I will have to 'grok' on that notion for a while.

-The presumed actual projection of the man will step forward boldly into the gleaming star bangled light and disown his supporters? "But, uh, look, I really am me! I'm not the Pied Piper".

-When I watch the current Story of O now, it all goes thru the filter of his own words, such as :

"People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves. They were more than satisfied; they were relieved-such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn’t seem angry all the time."

Then, I look closely at his cold eyes.

Check out a robust quotation list of O's from "Dreams from my Father" here, my friend :

http://www.stop-obama.org/?p=123

... and rationalize to me, why it is that as a non black, I should not fully reject his candidacy.

Personally, I don't give a hang about 'universal health care'. It is just another giant step into the realm of total dependence on the state to take care of everyone at a very high cost for lower quality care - probably on a downwardly sliding scale. I talk to people in Europe too, who can first hand verify how poor it is ... unless of course you are special.

As far as hateful presentations go, I have seen far more, far less grounded in facts, in videos and commentaries directed from your own (Obama) party toward your better (democratic) candidate, HRC, believe me. I have seen the vile directed at Bush from the very beginning of his first administration - a constant bile-filled torrent of often totally unreasoned pathology. But, it is wrong to shed some biased light on the blessed and anointed one. Please do not make me laugh. I take no real pleasure from the way I see things. And you are a nice guy. I don't think the video really implied that you must be a communist or anything like that. Thanks for your feedback. Later.

... any qualifications.

Well, okay, I can see where that might have come across as a little over-the-top hateful to an admitted Obama supporter.

Let's consider the question of qualifications ; certainly less acrimonious in nature. Let's look at a cursory view of his time-line from where he was to where he finds himself (there are some good links to follow within).

http://www.politibyte.com/modules.php?na...

Personally, I see no real ground for personal qualification. He is indeed a created 'rock-star'.

I have personally looked down various other more detailed information about his Chicago (mob) connections and dealings - and believe me, it is not a pretty picture.

I placed this item entitled "Was there an Obama/Daley deal on the Presidency"

http://poligazette.com/2008/03/09/was-th...

in a topic a posted a couple of weeks ago.

I can't stop you from your opinion.

That's what I take away from that horribly done, 13 minute long, Hate spewing video. It disgusted me.

Here are a few quotes I picked out of the video.

1) "not one, or two, but three Islamic names" That burnt me up bad. I'm sorry but unless your name is sitting bull, your family where immigrants. How does a man's name determine anything first off? If my name was Karl, that must make me a Marxist.

2) "Fact, Obama's FATHER is a Muslim from Kenya and his mother is white."
Because we all know every Muslim is a terrorist. That must make Obama a terrorist. I have a friend who has a grandfather that was born in Nazi Germany, do you think my friend is a Nazi? No he isn't.

3) "He attended a Muslim school" Did they also tell you he was a kid when you went to that school? Did they mention it could have been because his Muslim father wanted him to experience God is some form? Let me guess, did this school teach people to strap bombs on their chest and blow themselves up???

4) "Vague Voting Record"
http://obamasresume.org/

5)"Cuban Flag in one of Obama's Campaign Offices."

Ya like hung that himself... It couldn't have been the women sitting at the desk signing pappers like it's just another day. Obama even said it himself that he is a capitalist.

"Equally appalling is Obama’s eagerness to praise the glories of the capitalist system that produces grotesque fortunes at the top of America’s “inherited social order” while tens of millions of Americans go without adequate food, clothing, shelter, and health insurance." - RadicalLeft.net

^^^^ Commies hate him....

6) "Obama refuses to where a flag"

Ya, because it wouldn't make him look artificial now wouldn't it? He should be more like Bush who wares the pin all the time and exploits the nation.

7) "refuses to place hand over heart during the national anthem."

Is this America or Nazi Germany? Do we need patriot classes to know how to be a good American?

8) "He has attended trinity church of over 20 years"

You know something, because his pasture is a racists, doesn't mean he is. How can I prove this? I'm friends with a self proclaimed Nazi. Does that make me a raciest? No it doesn't. How can I prove this? I voted for Obama. Not because the man was white or black, but because he had views that I liked. It's called tolerance. This is a nation of Tolerance, at least it should be.

9) The reason why Obama condemns Imus for his racist remark, is because he wasn't the one he grew up with. He knew the pasture forever, and was friends with him. I won't like, I'm good friends with the Nazi guy. That doesn't mean I agree with his views up and down. It just means I have tolerance for other views.

10 "Liberation Theology has always expanded government control"

Okay, at this point, the guy is being ridiculous. He's calling democrats communists. What party do you think tries it's hardest to limit government control and tries to privatize everything? The Nazi party of course. But wait? isn't that also what the republican's want to do? yes it is, does that make them Nazi's? No it doesn't. How does more government intervention make democrats communists? This is so asinine.

11) "Black liberation theology"
Okay, we know the pasture is a racist already. We know for a fact obama is not a racist. We know for a fact Obama is a Christan of the United Church of Christ. More asinine talk is what that amounted too...

12) "Obama wants to talk to Iran"

Because it would just be better if we blew up a million people or so. Reagan didn't blow up Russia, he talked to them. The end result? America won. Thank you.

My view of this video?

The most Anti-American thing that ever crept out of the internet. I'm sure there's worse, but this is a good contender. While I could never question McCain's patriotism, I could question his ability to lead a nation. After 8 failed years of bush rule, do we really need another 4 to tell us that this is the wrong path for America to take? I could never question Obama's patriotism, like wise, I say he is just what America needs.

John, you have made points which should not be taken lightly. But correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Reagan met with IRAN----Madeline Albright let tiny-Kim display his army for her----Rumsfeld had a photo taken while shaking hands with Saddam---.

I'm no fan of Obama either and with his lack of foreign policy experience it might well be a disaster should he decide to meet with those who dislike us--which are many. He has been known to make some critical errors like "lying" and having the wrong mentors.

Do you even know what that word means?

Define appeasement in the context that you wish to use it and then we can have a discussion.

Hint: Talking with the enemy does not constitute appeasement. Appeasement depends on what you say to them.