Hamas's " useful Idiots"
Posted 16 weeks 2 days ago byWe've always spoken to our enemies.
The United States communicated with the Nazis all during WWII through back channels in Switzerland, Vichy France, the carribean, and South America---we even traded with them. There were some nefarious reasons for these overtures including greed and treason, but for the most part the conduct was in the intrest of hastening an end to a war that killed sixty million people.
These talks were never meant for public consumption. Each side had reasons for keeping the meetings clandestine. For America, her vulnerability to enemy propoganda was more acute do to its open society despite the media blackout imposed by Roosevelt. For Germany, any leaks of information would only launch a mortal purge against the military inteligensia that still existed within the ranks. This counterbalance of intrests demanded secrecy.
The counterbalance that exist between the United States and Hamas is much more nuanced and complicated. We ARE speaking to Hamas...and Iran, in ways that seem to escape the mental capacities of Barack Obama and President Carter. They are clumsy fools in a matter that demands adroit intelligence.
Arabs are master propogandists, eclipsing even Asians in their understanding of an open American society and it's susceptibility to media images. In many ways they have a "Madison Avenue" proclivity in marketing their " product " to this country. When they land a major American personality to star in one of their commercials, in this case President Carter and Barack Obama, American and Israeli back channels become nothing more than whistling contests.
I pray there are still some Roosevelt Democrats out there who understand that an open democracy must employ a degree of subterfuge and disinformation to counterbalance the totalitarian regimes that mean to do it harm. F.D.R. understood this. Carter and Obama do not.
For those who wish to understand how America REALLY won WWII, and could win the hearts and minds of the middle east, may I suggest the book " A Man Called Intrepid", by William Stephenson. A must read if you care about the survival of our intelligence services...and the survival of democracy.
Thoughts
Wow?
Submitted on May 16th, 2008 by AnonymousIf by "harm" you mean talking to Hamas, you need to add McCain to your list of "harmers" as well.
He's advocated the same approach as Carter and Obama towards Hamas. (See today's Washington Post). I know it's hard to keep track because he tends to speak out of both sides of his mouth. "Straight talk," they call it.
These are not Nazis we are playing with...
Submitted on May 15th, 2008 by IronguyThe Nazis of Germany where not religious zealots. They where propaganda driven animals. They knew of their mortality. They knew that they could face some consequences for their actions in WWII whether they fought for or against the crooked cross. What we have on our hands is a bit different. We have people who are willing to blow them selves up and know that God will love them for it. We need a leader willing to talk to these zealots. Someone who is charismatic. Someone who is willing to listen while still keeping America at mind. I feel Obama can and will do this. He wants to talk to every nation that doesn't like us. He doesn't want to continue with the same failing tactics that plague this nation today. The Gov shouldn't have to hide from the people at all. The Gov should be open with it's dealings. How can I trust my nation if it hides things from me. How can we uphold the ideas of democracy if we have not the full information to make a fully informed choice?
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Submitted on May 15th, 2008 by HamiltonI am standing and clapping, great essay. But I think both Obama and Carter truly understand the realities of what they do and it is exactly what they want to do, harm America.