A pig on the wing (and Obama in tatters?)
Posted 15 weeks 6 days ago byUPDATE: The pig lives! (Photo below...)
Roger Waters lost his pig on Sunday. It floated away from the Coachella Music Festival, drifting into the night sky across the low desert as Roger helplessly cried "That's my pig!" (You can hear it on the video.) Well, a pair of families discovered the tattered pink remains of Roger's pig strewn across their fields yesterday. It's a lot of pig -- according to the Press Association, the thing is... er, was about as tall as a house and wide as two buses. So, for their trouble, two Indio farming families will split a $10,000 reward and get lifetime passes to the festival. Not bad.
But if that were all there is to the story, I wouldn't comment, would I?
Everyone knows Roger Waters is an incorrigble lefty. The former pig displayed the words "Don't be led to the slaughter" and a cartoon of Uncle Sam holding two bloody cleavers. The other side read "Fear builds walls" and the underbelly read "Obama" with a ballot box checked for the embattled presidential hopeful.
Is the tattered pig a metaphor for Obama's campaign? Maybe. If nothing else, it's an excuse to say, "Ha! Ha! Charade you are, Obama!" But that wouldn't be very nice, to say nothing of the fact that it would be tendentious and lame. Hmmmm... not unlike the pig's messages, come to think of it!
No, better to say, "Ha ha! Charade you are, Waters!" For a guy who left Pink Floyd in a huff all those years ago, he sure seems wed to the old material. Animals was a great album, though, and "Sheep" is one of the great (David Gilmour- Roger Waters-penned) (see below) Floyd compositions of all time. But at least Waters' old bandmate David Gilmour, on his island, is doing interesting new material. Waters, the "progressive," hasn't made a decent record since Radio K.A.O.S.
May the pig rest in pieces.
UPDATE: Roger has a back-up pig! My agent in Denver sent photographic evidence from tonight's show.
Does this portend an Obama resurgence? Tendentious, lame, and possible...














Thoughts
no decent record since kaos?
Submitted on May 2nd, 2008 by Anonymousapparantley you have never heard pros and cons, amused to death, or flickering flame.
Yes, yes, but No
Submitted on May 1st, 2008 by dots"It's also important to note that Rock-n-Roll was defined by and designed for youth culture from the start. It was created specifically to be different from the square music of the world's parents."
Well, you didn't mean to say from the start, but anyway.
Your snapping a shot at fifties era radio promotions and touring shows. The beginning of the era we are presently in, that guided the art of making music into the business of selling records. Sure the record business targets youth (the buying demographic), and successful musicians subscribe to a symbiotic relationship with the business. This shapes all our sensibilities because Rock and Roll represents this symbiosis in bloom more so in the last 60 years than in all of the history of civilization.
But as an art form I refuse to concede that Rock and Roll belongs exclusively to the young. Mostly because I am no longer young, and while I have given up my youthful ways, I still think in the language of Rock and Roll. Not because I haven't grown up, but because in there lies some of the most powerful music ever written.
Now I'll take your point when it comes to the Rolling Stones. Mick Jagger prancing around like a nervous adolescent cheerleader doesn't help my argument at all.
Pathetic nostagia tours
Submitted on May 1st, 2008 by Jim LakelyBen certainly has stepped in it a bit here. So let me offer him a rag to wipe his shoe ...
I think what he's decrying are the types of shows that the Big K talked about below with regards to John Fogey ... er ... Fogerty. There are some acts that clearly only haul themselves out on tour for the cash. And the worst of them, like The Eagles, threaten that this tour will be our final one ... WE MEAN IT!!! ... only to get the band back together and shlep back on the road for yet another "farewell tour." (And it's not just rock acts play who this game. See Streisand, Barbra.)
It's also important to note that Rock-n-Roll was defined by and designed for youth culture from the start. It was created specifically to be different from the square music of the world's parents. So, yeah, there's a tinge of the pathetic about grandparents up on the stage rocking out to the eternal-youth lyrics they wrote when they were barely out of their teens. (Not to mention the obvious irony of Daltry singing his most famous line when he is ... well ... old.) There is simply something a little un-Rock-n-Roll about old people rockin' out.
At least many of the classic rockers, like Waters, have a musical integrity and extensive library about them. The most pathetic of the nostalgia tours are the "Retro-Fests" that toss a bunch of one-hit wonders from the 80s together to play any county fair, mall opening or barmitzvah that will have them. Somehow I think the world can do without hearing Kajagoogoo play "Too Shy" live again. Bruce doing "Born to Run"? As many times as possible before you die, Boss.
So let me weigh in here.
Submitted on May 1st, 2008 by The Big KlosowskiFirst off, I agree, that the older performers trying to be "young" fail miserably. But you can be an older performer and still be relevant, and rock-out gracefully.
At the show last night I was happy to say that at least Roger Waters took a stand, and tried to make a statement. And themes from The Wall apply anytime there is a war going on. It's an evergreen topic. He is clearly anti-religion, anti-Iraq War, and against George Bush.
It's a strong contrast from the John Fogerty show I saw in 2004, where Fogerty sang "Fortunate Son" with all the passion of regular vegas performer, in his black pressed pants, and black silk shirt, and colorful backup singers with full lighting production. Honestly was the most Disney version of any rock n' roll show I've ever been to, and the most boring/least rock 'n roll.
Waters had a new original song called "Leaving Beirut" which was a direct attack on George Bush. It was poorly executed while playing to his ego, but the crowd ate it up.
However, there were some certainly strong moments in the show, including mixing "Bring the Boys Back Home" with images from the current conflicts worldwide. Having many relatives and friends overseas, even if you support the conflict, you still want them to come back safe - and soon.
Clearly he takes a more utopian view of the world now than he did 35 years ago. His view now seems to be that violence is not necessary under any real circumstances. This seems to conflict with the famous song "Wish You Were Here" where he asks, "did you trade a walk-on part in the role for a lead role in the cage?" Passivity would not have done so well to drive those oppressive WWII regimes away from his home country. Sometimes violence is necessary, but peace can be an overarching goal worth reaching for.
So while slightly misguided, it was still for the most part a passionate, graceful, and engaging show. He did no jumping around or youthful posturing. He merely let the music speak for itself. The compositions of these songs are lasting, which is why they spent 15-years on the Billboard 200. Sometimes good music is good music.
As for Jazz musicians performing "standards". Any jazz musician that plays the same song twice, is not a jazz musician.
Does Roger Daltrey still hope he dies before he gets old?
Submitted on May 1st, 2008 by BenPoint taken, Dots. It occurred to me after I wrote that line and the sentence before it that I wouldn't be saying the same thing about Beethoven, Bach or Brahms. Jazz works, too. Who would object to hearing Duke Ellington perform Take the 'A' Train 40 or 50 years after he wrote it?
Yet there is something ridiculous about watching 60-year-old men jump about a stage and contort their faces as they play a guitar solo for the 110,000th time, as opposed to seeing jazz or classical musicians perform standards. Rock and roll doesn't just assume youth; it asserts youth.
At what point?
Submitted on May 1st, 2008 by dots"At some point, these nostalgia tours just become sad and pathetic."
What bothers me about the entire Rock and Roll milieu is the assumption of youth. I met Count Basie when he was in his seventies, and nobody was calling his work a "nostalgia" tour.
I guess the point that performance of music becomes sad and pathetic is the point at which one doesn't want to hear it but is compulsed to think, opine, and write about it anyway.
Eye of the beholder and all.
Correction!
Submitted on April 30th, 2008 by Ben"Waters wrote the music and lyrics for 'Sheep'"
Ach! You're right. I got the credit mixed up with "Dogs," for which Gilmour wrote the music. The riff on "Sheep" is great, though. I regret the error. As punishment, I'll listen to "Amused to Death."
Look, don't get me wrong, I love Pink Floyd, even if Waters is a nutter and despite the fact that classic rock radio has overplayed Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here. But, good heavens, Dark Side came out 35 years ago! At some point, these nostalgia tours just become sad and pathetic.
ummm...
Submitted on April 30th, 2008 by Anonymous"Animals was a great album, though, and "Sheep" is one of the great (David Gilmour-penned) Floyd compositions of all time."
Check your research--Waters wrote the music and lyrics for "Sheep"
as for him "being wed to the old material", that's also likely because he wrote over 70 percent of it.
NOOOOOO! Darnit!
Submitted on April 30th, 2008 by The Big KlosowskiI'm headed out to see him tonight. That stinks. Maybe he'll have a new pig? Here's to hoping.