Rules against torture don't apply when we want to torture
Posted 19 weeks 6 days ago byBy now you've probably heard that the goverment has released a 2003 memo to the Pentagon authorizing "harsh interrogation techniques." The memo was later rescinded, and it seems the Pentagon never got around to doing the worst of what it was authorized to do.
The most fascinating part of the coverage, to me, is this:
Sent to the Pentagon's general counsel on March 14, 2003, by John C. Yoo, then a deputy in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, the memo provides an expansive argument for nearly unfettered presidential power in a time of war. It contends that numerous laws and treaties forbidding torture or cruel treatment should not apply to U.S. interrogations in foreign lands because of the president's inherent wartime powers.
Here's part one of the memorandum. (PDF)
Here's part two of the memorandum. (PDF)
It's the treaty part of Yoo's assertion that fascinates me. Many of those treaties were meant to govern behavior during wartime. That's the whole point. That's why previous presidents negotiated -- and Congresses ratified -- those treaties. To argue that rules governing wartime behavior can be ignored because we're at war is the very definition of sophistry.














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Two things
Submitted on April 3rd, 2008 by Joel* Where and when has the enemy tortured thousands of our troops?
* If terrorists are so bad and evil -- and they are -- why in the world would we justify our morality using them as a baseline? don't we want to be better than them?
tourtue
Submitted on April 3rd, 2008 by Anonymousno offense but how come when the enemy tortures thoulsands of our troops and ineccent people noone says anything but when tourture one terriost us citzens hate us
Rules against torture don't apply when we want to
Submitted on April 2nd, 2008 by AnonymousNEVER in my life time did I think that I would hear about Americans willfully torturing anyone!! But much to my surprise here it is just one more reason for the world to hate them but more important I've lost my respect for the country and its people and I worry what Canada might do when it realizes its backing the wrong side! whats up is now down